Dave Hounddriver Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 If people did not like my 'rat' analogy, (perhaps truth hurts and the ones to feel stung . . .?), then people will surely hate the analogy of sharks circling prey because they smell blood.I'm still not convinced that the PNP or the BI or what have you want, need or welcome the help (interference?) of other expats into their criminal investigations but one thing that forums have taught me. People on forums are quick to convict on the flimsiest of news reports or on line gossip. At least that has been my observation and it is sad.Oh yes, for the ones who think that 'rat' is an underworld term, do you prefer the police term of 'snitch' or 'informer'? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve & Myrlita Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 If people did not like my 'rat' analogy, (perhaps truth hurts and the ones to feel stung . . .?), then people will surely hate the analogy of sharks circling prey because they smell blood.I'm still not convinced that the PNP or the BI or what have you want, need or welcome the help (interference?) of other expats into their criminal investigations but one thing that forums have taught me. People on forums are quick to convict on the flimsiest of news reports or on line gossip. At least that has been my observation and it is sad.Oh yes, for the ones who think that 'rat' is an underworld term, do you prefer the police term of 'snitch' or 'informer'?The term witness for the prosecution comes to mind. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 The term witness for the prosecution comes to mind. Witnesses are called by the prosecution. Not self volunteered. While an informant may eventually be a witness ftp, all witnesses ftp are not informants.Perhaps a "confidential informant" is preferred? I can understand why some would want their 'information' to remain 'confidential'. If it turns out the perp is innocent he may seek reprisals.Anyway, ladies and gents, I understand from the comments that I am in the minority here so, unless others want to jump in, I shall concede the debate and do my best to bite my tongue from here on. (at least in this thread :hystery: ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollygoodfellow Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 :hystery: Been a good topic but time to move on.Thanks to all those who participated. :hystery: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadamale Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I am also one of the ones who is not running from anywhere but running too the Philippines because i like it here. I have had little to no interaction with the police and would like to keep it that way. I would have to be really sure of the circumstances before i would ever turn any one over to the Philippine authorities for any reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methersgate Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) :attention: Been a good topic but time to move on.Thanks to all those who participated. :cheersty: Shucks! I don't want to comment on individual cases, but more generally yes, there are, and have been, quite a number of foreign criminals living in the Philippines. Years ago a Swedish friend remarked that pretty much the entire criminal class of his home country were living in Barrio Barretto in Olongapo in the winter and robbing banks and carrying out frauds at home in the summer! The general question of "whether to intervene in a situation" is more difficult particularly if it is a "domestic". I have usually just remarked carefully in earshot of the abused wife and her children if they are old enough that if a man once strikes a woman he will do so again. There is a well known sports bar in Barrio Barretto owned / run by a chap who makes no secret of having been a member of the Inter City Firm. Perfectly pleasant fellow and runs a nice bar, but I certainly would not want to cross him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter_City_Firm http://www.bernardomahoney.com/rrmurders/articles/teotr.shtml Edited April 20, 2015 by Methersgate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 It was some funny with the pedophile Wanted in USA, who fled to Phils. Then he at Internet mocked the American justice system failing to catch him including posting PROOFS he was doing same crime in Phils and telling WHERE in Phils he was. So Phils police got to know where to catch him :mocking: A higher American criminal wanted in USA don't even need to hide in Phils, he just pay the Phil police where he live north of Manila... DIFFERENT situation: AFTER done his jail time, a Swedish famous bank robber didn't want to be criminal no more. (He wasn't realy a criminal type, he is a good hearted weak minded follower type, who had criminal friends.) So he moved to Thailand, married, have a small farm and the main shop in a small village, so he earned ok legaly. (But last I heared his shop had got hard competition from a new supermarket in a neighbour biger village/town.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clermont Posted July 18, 2017 Posted July 18, 2017 Interesting subject: Australia has/ or will in the near future pass into parliament, laws forbidding people from sponsoring visa applicants if they have a criminal history of a sexual nature, domestic violence, pedophilia, and a stint of more than 12 months jail time. I also believe they notify the country they are traveling to of these crimes, yep all done with a click of the button and turned around before they get into the country. Australia does it now and the sooner we get rid of these germs out of the PI the better for us expats. Just a little story: my wife and I were in a hotel in Manila. During the night a commotion started a couple of doors down. I wanted to go out as a young lady was in distress, my wife wouldn't give me my pants, ( thank god, to old to snot someone nowadays ) so, it was left up to the bell boys ( 2) to handle the situation. Next morning I inquired about the commotion and was told an Australian had hit the girl and they had detained him until the police arrived. "Good what happens to him now," silly bugger was to fly out that morning but being locked up, no show, forfeited his plane ticket, plus he had to pay the girl 50000 Peso so she wouldn't proceed with the charges. Also he was locked up for two days until he came up with the money for a new air ticket, deported and I take my hat of to the Australian Embassy, they arranged for the money to be transferred for the ticket, bought the ticket and escorted him to the airport. A dossier was sent back to Australia, as all interventions by Embassy's abroad are notifiable. So these grubs are being weeded out. Countries of second world status are sick of these grubs that think they can go to another country and cause misery, knowing that money is life to a lot of these people. It won't be long before they can't even leave their own shore lines to ply their sadistic nature on innocent people. Off the soap box now, the PI is more advanced in knowing who the grubs are than we can imagine, the laws only have to catch up with the technology. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted July 18, 2017 Posted July 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Clermont said: the laws only have to catch up with the technology. There lies the problem and Food for thought another Topic ' How good is PI Immigration Really'? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clermont Posted July 18, 2017 Posted July 18, 2017 Believe me, it's up with the best now, all to scared to lose their high paying jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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