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#1 OFFLINE   dalidali

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 12:59 PM

One of these flights from Los Angeles to Tokyo, on All Nippon Airlines (ANA), has a 55 minute window to connect on a different plane to Manila.

 

For me, 55 minutes is cutting it real short!!

I am wondering how convoluted the Tokyo airport is for making connections?

 

For example, the airport in Taipei is a zoo to me.....from the arrival terminal to another departure terminal, via moving sidewalks, to a shuttle train. 55 minutes would put me in a mini panic there.

 

I like 1.5 hrs. or 2 hours between flights.......coffee, a leak and some window shopping at the various outlets .......it's all good.

 

Question to those who have flown into Tokyo and then onward on a different plane......is that airport doable for a 55 minute connection window between arrival and departure terminals?

 

 


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 04:04 PM

One of these flights from Los Angeles to Tokyo, on All Nippon Airlines (ANA), has a 55 minute window to connect on a different plane to Manila.

 

For me, 55 minutes is cutting it real short!!

I am wondering how convoluted the Tokyo airport is for making connections?

 

For example, the airport in Taipei is a zoo to me.....from the arrival terminal to another departure terminal, via moving sidewalks, to a shuttle train. 55 minutes would put me in a mini panic there.

 

I like 1.5 hrs. or 2 hours between flights.......coffee, a leak and some window shopping at the various outlets .......it's all good.

 

Question to those who have flown into Tokyo and then onward on a different plane......is that airport doable for a 55 minute connection window between arrival and departure terminals?

That is cuttin' it too close for me.  Even if my departure from Tokyo was the same airline (but different plane)

I would be also stressing out.  So many variables affect your timely arrival to Tokyo from LAX -- one of which

is weather delays.  Out of curiosity, would that airline compensate you for missing your onward ANA flight to

Manila?  Perhaps an upgrade, overnight hotel or monetary compensation......

 

Respectfully -- Jake 


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 04:59 PM

One of these flights from Los Angeles to Tokyo, on All Nippon Airlines (ANA), has a 55 minute window to connect on a different plane to Manila.

 

For me, 55 minutes is cutting it real short!!

I am wondering how convoluted the Tokyo airport is for making connections?

 

For example, the airport in Taipei is a zoo to me.....from the arrival terminal to another departure terminal, via moving sidewalks, to a shuttle train. 55 minutes would put me in a mini panic there.

 

I like 1.5 hrs. or 2 hours between flights.......coffee, a leak and some window shopping at the various outlets .......it's all good.

 

Question to those who have flown into Tokyo and then onward on a different plane......is that airport doable for a 55 minute connection window between arrival and departure terminals?

That is cuttin' it too close for me.  Even if my departure from Tokyo was the same airline (but different plane)

I would be also stressing out.  So many variables affect your timely arrival to Tokyo from LAX -- one of which

is weather delays.  Out of curiosity, would that airline compensate you for missing your onward ANA flight to

Manila?  Perhaps an upgrade, overnight hotel or monetary compensation......

 

Respectfully -- Jake 

Beats me really on your question Jake....I have no clue.

I usually use China Airlines from LAX, as they arrive in Manila mid-morning rather than at night.

Right now China's fares are over the top compared to ANA. Like $1450 vs. $1100.00

For $350 clams I will boot my loyalty to China out the back window.

Come on summer promos!!!!

 

A slight right turn on this same general topic:....Do any airline experts know if there are communications between incoming and outgoing connecting flights, with whatever method they use, if any...... know that there are incoming passengers that need to get on outgoing flight XY at XB time and will wait for those passengers?

And, if they do communicate in some manner, will they wait for those who have a short connection window?

 

As an example...let's say Joe the traveler has a short window (using the 55 minutes) for making his onward connection and knowing (or not) the incoming flights "real time" gate arrival schedules, would they, or do they know, that in fact Joe is hotfooting it down to departure gate B, while all the other passengers are already on board with headsets plugged in and grumbling under their breath "what is the holdup?"

 

Perhaps anyone who has flown, has heard the announcement "Attention Mr Joe, please report to gate 4 immediately"


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 05:39 PM

One of these flights from Los Angeles to Tokyo, on All Nippon Airlines (ANA), has a 55 minute window to connect on a different plane to Manila.

 

For me, 55 minutes is cutting it real short!!

I am wondering how convoluted the Tokyo airport is for making connections?

 

For example, the airport in Taipei is a zoo to me.....from the arrival terminal to another departure terminal, via moving sidewalks, to a shuttle train. 55 minutes would put me in a mini panic there.

 

I like 1.5 hrs. or 2 hours between flights.......coffee, a leak and some window shopping at the various outlets .......it's all good.

 

Question to those who have flown into Tokyo and then onward on a different plane......is that airport doable for a 55 minute connection window between arrival and departure terminals?

 

I have flown United to Tokyo then ANA from Tokyo to Manila, and vice versa. On one return flight I only had 1 hour between flights. I made it to the boarding area in time but my luggage did not. So they would not let me board. My flight to the USA was pushed back 1.5 hours. But that was for a flight returning to the USA. There are fewer flights going from Tokyo to Manila.

 

I do like that ANA uses NAIA Terminal 3 which is the newest and nicest Terminal with fewer international flights so you can get through customs/BI quickly.

 

To sum it up. You may be able to get to the boarding area in time but your luggage may not. Airline policy now is that you don't board the plane if your luggage doesn't.


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 08:48 PM

A slight right turn on this same general topic:....Do any airline experts know if there are communications between incoming and outgoing connecting flights, with whatever method they use, if any...... know that there are incoming passengers that need to get on outgoing flight XY at XB time and will wait for those passengers? And, if they do communicate in some manner, will they wait for those who have a short connection window? As an example...let's say Joe the traveler has a short window (using the 55 minutes) for making his onward connection and knowing (or not) the incoming flights "real time" gate arrival schedules, would they, or do they know, that in fact Joe is hotfooting it down to departure gate B, while all the other passengers are already on board with headsets plugged in and grumbling under their breath "what is the holdup?" Perhaps anyone who has flown, has heard the announcement "Attention Mr Joe, please report to gate 4 immediately"

 

 

Once on a flight from LAX to Manila via Hong Kong out flight needed to make an emergency stop for fuel in Taipei.  This caused a 2.5 hour delay arriving in Hong Kong.  Since there were many other passengers on this flight connecting the same flight to Manila, they told us the plane would be waiting and we would be escorted to the connecting gate and also the baggage should be with us.  When we debarked in Hong Kong, there were attendants about every 100' directing passengers to our connecting gate.  Boy was I tired when we boarded.  I watched out the window as the last the luggage was loaded and within minutes we were in the air.  After all that, we arrived in Manila only an hour later than scheduled.


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 09:09 PM

A slight right turn on this same general topic:....Do any airline experts know if there are communications between incoming and outgoing connecting flights, with whatever method they use, if any...... know that there are incoming passengers that need to get on outgoing flight XY at XB time and will wait for those passengers?

And, if they do communicate in some manner, will they wait for those who have a short connection window?

 

As an example...let's say Joe the traveler has a short window (using the 55 minutes) for making his onward connection and knowing (or not) the incoming flights "real time" gate arrival schedules, would they, or do they know, that in fact Joe is hotfooting it down to departure gate B, while all the other passengers are already on board with headsets plugged in and grumbling under their breath "what is the holdup?"

 

Perhaps anyone who has flown, has heard the announcement "Attention Mr Joe, please report to gate 4 immediately"

 

Most airlines have extensive back-office networking and software to "optimize" their operations.  They know where every plane is at all times.  They know which passengers have boarded which planes.  If there are enough people late for a flight they will hold it if possible while people make the connection.  But they might just optimize the other way, sell your seat to stand-by passenger, and send your next flight on its way.  I've had both happen to me at various times (not internationally, thankfully).  It's all about the dollar/peso/yen/dinero.  You are just a pawn the great game of profit played with multi-million dollar airplanes.

 

Earthdome points out the other problem with the short connection time--the luggage.  You might make the flight while your bag sits on a dirty white trailer on the tarmac somewhere...


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 06:21 AM

No drama is my motto. Philippineair.com and a direct flight from LAX to Manila if the plane is not full. If full, then 45 min stop in Guam for fuel, and you do not get off the plane.

 

Arrive in Manila 6:55 am in plenty of time to catch a flight out to other points if that is your plan. It really is that simple. :tiphat:  


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 11:41 AM

Everybody loves to get short wait times to change flights but they always forget that it takes a while to be able to get off the aircraft, find out what terminal your next departure is from and to actually get there.  And then you have to wait for your luggage to deplane and be sent to your new flight as well.  Need to use the men's / ladies room in the meantime?  Odds are you might not make that flight!  And, if you do make that flight, after having sat through a nice long trip across the pond and having all your muscles tighten up, lactic acid screaming through your veins and a mind that turned to mush 8 hours previously, that little jog to get to your next flight is not going to help you any in regards to being comfortable on flight number 2.  So, if you have a chance to have at least 1.5 hours to 3 hours between flights?  Take it!  You will feel so much better after!  Anything 1 hour or less is cutting it too close to make and odds are you will end up on the same later flight anyways.

 

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 11:48 AM

One of these flights from Los Angeles to Tokyo, on All Nippon Airlines (ANA), has a 55 minute window to connect on a different plane to Manila.

 

For me, 55 minutes is cutting it real short!!

I am wondering how convoluted the Tokyo airport is for making connections?

 

For example, the airport in Taipei is a zoo to me.....from the arrival terminal to another departure terminal, via moving sidewalks, to a shuttle train. 55 minutes would put me in a mini panic there.

 

I like 1.5 hrs. or 2 hours between flights.......coffee, a leak and some window shopping at the various outlets .......it's all good.

 

Question to those who have flown into Tokyo and then onward on a different plane......is that airport doable for a 55 minute connection window between arrival and departure terminals?

 

I have flown United to Tokyo then ANA from Tokyo to Manila, and vice versa. On one return flight I only had 1 hour between flights. I made it to the boarding area in time but my luggage did not. So they would not let me board. My flight to the USA was pushed back 1.5 hours. But that was for a flight returning to the USA. There are fewer flights going from Tokyo to Manila.

 

I do like that ANA uses NAIA Terminal 3 which is the newest and nicest Terminal with fewer international flights so you can get through customs/BI quickly.

 

To sum it up. You may be able to get to the boarding area in time but your luggage may not. Airline policy now is that you don't board the plane if your luggage doesn't.

I flown same route as Earthdome from Seattle, this past November. I had no problems with plane flight switch in Tokyo.

I enjoy the service with United airlines.  As for Nippon flights the service was not good.



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Posted 13 April 2013 - 12:45 PM

I've had to fly to South Korea for work before (out of SFO).  First time was on United via Narita (Tokyo) and on to Incheon followed by a 3 hour limo bus ride to Daejeon.  Ugh.  Service on United was sub-par in my opinion.  Next time the trip was last minute and the company's cheapest available flight rule meant I had to take Korean Air.  I was pleasantly surprised as the planes were better (cleaner, full entertainment console at every seat), the service was better*, the food was better, and the flight was direct to Incheon.

 

So when I met my Filipina GF last year and started exploring flight options to get to Cebu I was happy to find that Korean Air had service from Incheon direct to Cebu.  So that's what I've done twice (third trip coming up soon) with zero problems.  Layover on the way out is 2-3hrs which is good because Incheon is a huge airport and you have to go through security when arriving, even to make a connection.  The bad news is coming back--there's a 10 hour layover!  But Incheon is a nice airport with plenty to do.  They have a short stay hotel in the airport if you need a rest.

 

If you're headed to Cebu, try it out.  The flight down from Incheon is only about 4 hours and arrives about midnight local time.  I assume Korean Air has flights from LA and maybe Seattle to Incheon, too.

 

--Dougbert

 

*There are more flight attendants on the flights, when you get to your seat there is already a blanket, pillow, headphones, and small bottle of water waiting for you.  Later you get a free packet with slippers to wear over your socks so you can take off your shoes, an eye cover thing so you can sleep better, and a little toothpaste and toothbrush.  The flight attendants are friendly and service oriented unlike on many western airlines.  Here's a tip--order some sort of special meal and you'll get served first!


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