Gas Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) 20 hours ago, Dave Hounddriver said: Lynn asked me to explain what an expat is. As I tried to explain the difference between expats and immigrants and tourists etc, she quickly grasped that expats are just like Balikbayans who were not born in Philippines. How do you describe the difference between a expat, immigrant and tourist in the Philippines? Would be interesting to here how other members on the forum describe their status here in the country. I would describe myself as an immigrant because i have no plans to return to my country of origin. Edited June 11, 2017 by Gas 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gratefuled Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 I'm a "tourist" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlwaysRt Posted June 11, 2017 Popular Post Posted June 11, 2017 Tourist - on vacation mode, temporary visitor Immigrant - moved away from their country to be a permanent resident in another country Expat - moved away from their country to be a temporary or permanent resident in another country So an immigrant is an expat but an expat is not necessarily an immigrant I call myself an expat and have not as yet decided if permanent or temporary. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) I first heard the term in 1967 when my father was in the RCAF. He was expatriated to Germany, (which simply meant he was being stationed in a foreign country for a few years), and later repatriated to Canada. Thus I grew up with the conception of expat as being one who was moving away from his land of residence to temporarily reside in a foreign country for a period of time more than a tourist but less than an immigrant. Some expats pass away without ever returning to their homeland but they are still expats for so long as they call the place they came from "home". Such is the concept I was raised with. I'm sure there are many variations on the use of the word. English is funny that way. It does make me wonder if the military of other countries uses the terms expatriate and repatriate when stationing men in other countries of if was just an RCAF thing. I have no idea if they still use that terminology. Edited June 11, 2017 by Dave Hounddriver 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Dave Hounddriver said: I have no idea if they still use that terminology. No Dave because in Reality your are still in the Country of the Service, as it is Crown Property (For the UK) Leased from which ever country you are in, So when I was in Germany for example Osnabruck RAF Station was a Little bit of the UK Now RAF Lakenheath (Where our departed Friend Chris 49 was Stationed) in Suffolk UK is Home for the US Air Force so the Guys there are still in the US, Governed by US regulations but once outside the Gate they are in the UK. Can't say about Canada but as a Commonwealth Country I do not see why you should feel an Expat. Suffice to say that anyone that works in an Embassy in a Foreign Country is in fact on their own Countries soil so NO! to me they are not Expats and have no need to repatriate themselves. As I see it G & G's Now Jake correct please, when the Navy is out at sea, the Ship (Boat as a SUB is a National Home) if it was out for say 9 months to a year [and it can happen] they are still in their own Country. When they dock they are in another country (If they leave the Ship) OK Is this a Good answer for all 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas Posted June 11, 2017 Author Posted June 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, Dave Hounddriver said: Thus I grew up with the conception of expat as being one who was moving away from his land of residence to temporarily reside in a foreign country for a period of time more than a tourist but less than an immigrant. That is how i sort of see it, however from my experience foreigner workers from certain countries are not classed as expats. When i lived in Hong Kong it seemed that there was a distinct difference between expats, say from the UK and the Philippines even though both intended to return "home". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, Jack Peterson said: Can't say about Canada but as a Commonwealth Country I do not see why you should feel an Expat. I can only tell you what all of us dependents and our dads called it when we lived in Germany. You may have been on the base but our family lived in a little German town, rented a house there, had a gf there, but went to school on the base and were taught with Ontario curriculum. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gas Posted June 11, 2017 Author Popular Post Posted June 11, 2017 Expatriate refers to someone living outside his native country. Expatriate may be used as an adjective, noun or verb. Derived forms are expatriates, expatriated, expatriating, expatriation, the noun form of expatriate is sometimes abbreviated as expat. Originally, an expatriate was someone exiled from his home country, derived from the mid-1700s French word expatrier, meaning banish. The term expatriate carries the connotation that the person in question will one day return to his country of origin, or at least wishes to one day return to his country of origin. An immigrant is a person who leaves his home and travels to another country in order to become a permanent member of the population. An immigrant is making a permanent change to his residency, with no plan to return to his country of origin or wish to return to his country of origin. The word immigrant comes from the Latin word immigrantem meaning to remove, to move in. Related words are immigrates, immigrated, immigrating, immigration. http://grammarist.com/usage/expatriate-vs-immigrant/ 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Berkowitz Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 I see myself as both an Expat and as a resident. I know (and accept the fact) that the Philippines will never accept me as a Filipino but for the time being, I simply reside here (just like my classification on my ARC-I card). Quite honestly, I really don’t feel like a tourist and I really don’t feel like an immigrant. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysRt Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Gas said: That is how i sort of see it, however from my experience foreigner workers from certain countries are not classed as expats. When i lived in Hong Kong it seemed that there was a distinct difference between expats, say from the UK and the Philippines even though both intended to return "home". What difference are you talking about? Just the tendency for 'western' workers, usually for large corporations, to call themselves expats vs the common Filipino term of OFW? That is actually about the same as asking 2 people where they are from and one says America while the other says USA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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