Nursing Shortage Again In USA.

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Dave Hounddriver
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I suppose that's what happens when you "Make Healthcare Great Again".  If its great and its affordable then people are going to actually use it and thus you get a shortage of nurses and anything else that goes along with great healthcare.

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MikeB
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1 hour ago, russellmania said:

Maybe they will call upon the Philippines to help with the shortage like in the past!

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5001180/Huge-nursing-shortage-costing-America-BILLIONS.html

This is not a new problem. If they want to fix this without bringing in foreign help they need to offer more scholarships and contracts with hospitals for qualified candidates after completion of training and certification. No more student loans that put graduates in debt for hundreds of thousands of dollars. The whole system is a stinking mess. 

As for Filipino nurses, I wouldn’t count on any relaxation of the H-1B rules from the current regime. America First, remember? 
 

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Snowy79
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I'm a firm believer in wealthy countries should produce their own nurses or specialists. We have it also in the UK when the government brainwash the people into thanking foreign nurses and specialists for being the back bone of our health service, but conveniently forget that its the poor countries who sufer through shortages. Just as long as the wealthy are OK. 

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Gerald Glatt
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With the unemployment at a historic low bringing migrant nurses and other  specialities makes sense.  They will not be the ones sucking on the public teat.  They will be the ones funding our (especially mine)  Social Security and medicare that the Senate and previous administrations borrowed (stole) from.  Bring them the doctors the engineers........leave the attorneys 

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ClearSky
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24 minutes ago, Gerald Glatt said:

Bring them the doctors the engineers........leave the attorneys 

As en engineer,   would vote to also leave the engineers.  Our salary goes up if companies need to compete,  it does down if there is easy access to lower cost.  No complaint against the companies or the workers.:morning1:

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scott h
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10 hours ago, Snowy79 said:

I'm a firm believer in wealthy countries should produce their own nurses or specialists.

The thing is that the wealthier countries are the ones with a HUGE baby boomer population and the number of nurses needed to man (or woman lol) the convalescent hospitals is unbelievable. 

Little know fact or not publicized is that their are usually enough home grown nurses to keep traditional hospitals staffed, it is the old folks homes where the majority of foreign nurses work.

I have 3 Filipino nieces who are nurses. 2 in the states and 1 in oz. All three started working in old folks homes. Now at least in the States, Filipino nurses are not considered qualified to work as Registered nurses and work in mainline hospitals, 1 niece in the states had to return to school there in the states an now works for a state hospital, another still works at a convalescent hospital while getting her schooling done. My niece in Australia also had to get some additional schooling done when she moved there and now is a surgical nurse.

When my Father was in an old folks home, almost all the staff were Filipino. He got great care there onse the staff knew is Daughter in law was Filipino lolol :hystery:

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Mike J
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56 minutes ago, scott h said:

Now at least in the States, Filipino nurses are not considered qualified to work as Registered nurses and work in mainline hospitals,

I have not heard this, can you supply a source? 

When I lived in the states about 5-6 years ago a nearby hospital recruited a group of nurses from the Philippines and paid to move them and their families to the USA.  This was to work for the hospital.  The number that sticks in my head was 10 nurses, but I could be wrong.  I will see if I can find any old news articles.  This was in central Washington state where there has been a nurse and doctor shortage for many many years.  This was not just a case of sending out an employment advertisement.  The hospital actually sent a recruiter to the Philippines to find the skill set and experience they needed.

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Clermont
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I could rant on about all Western countries being tarred with the same brush when it comes to employing foreign workers, not only in the nursing profession, but I'll spare you. All I can say, thank's to the third world countries that have got the foresight to train their people in these services that the western civilization seem too demeaning to do.

And yes I have an elderly mother in a nursing home, and yes her bum needs wiping and she needs showing too, who does this, foreign workers.

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marine6357
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27 minutes ago, Mike J said:

Now at least in the States, Filipino nurses are not considered qualified to work as Registered nurses and work in mainline hospitals,

I have been researching this exact subject and it is not true that they cannot work in hospitals when they arrive. To gain entry to the US as a nurse you must first apply to a states Board of Nursing, who will then allow the prospect to take the NCLEX exam which the licensing exam , next is to take Ietls or Toefl which are English language proficiency test. Once they pass those they can then apply for H-1b visa to work in the US. It is a very long process which usually takes a year or more for the whole process. Also for the visa they need a sponsor who is willing to sponsor their visa.

There are many companies who are offering OFW's this for a fee or some where they the nurse is required to work a specific contract with no pay back required. 

If anyone would like more info PM me and I can direct you to the right info.

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