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gaga4 last won the day on December 15 2013

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  1. Been off for awhile but read thru the comments with interest.... what it boils down to in my opinion is what happens is what you allow to happen. There is such a thing as decorum or etiquette. To attribute your comments about footing the bill to culture is absolute nonsense. There is nothing unique about Filipino culture that just bc you're a "foreigner" you are stuck with the bill no matter what. Absolute nonsense. This can happen in other parts of the world. The only reason it will happen is bc you allow it to happen. I think we Americans have a word for that. SUCKER!!! So if you want to play Sucker that's your choice. Don't attribute it to culture. What is it that you are afraid would happen anyway if you don't play their game?
  2. Sorry. Not trying to step on anyone's toes. I probably have the wrong audience here anyway. My comments are really meant more for the locals to point out to them that this modus operandi which you claim to be culture is not acceptable. One that will back-fire sooner or later, if it hasn't already.
  3. Yeah... That's what pinoys are good at.... making fun of things when wala ng lusot... laglag bala would have been deemed cultural if the world did not think it was a terroristic act.
  4. Oh how convenient. So I guess that means that if a Pinoy visits the US he will expect Americans to treat him.... How convenient is that.... that's where you're wrong. Some pinoys want to make this way because they want to erase the honor and dignity that once existed among Filipinos, you being one of them apparently I'm guessing.
  5. Ok, first of all making guests pay is wrong!! And I'll go ahead and say it - these customs/culture have become an excuse resulting from an extremely over populated country. I hope I don't have to explain the side effects of over population. There is a connection. Justify the "custom/culture" all you want but you can't twist it around and make it sound like it's ok. If you cannot afford to pay or spend or foot the bill then don't invite people to dine out. I left the Philippines years ago. I understand what is not acceptable. And making guests pay is not acceptable. Nor is spending beyond your means. Here's one for you. If Duterte did not squash laglag bala I bet people would justify it as part of the culture.
  6. You can slice and dice it all you want but you know it is wrong to make a visitor or guest pay. Stop making the excuse that it's the custom or culture. If you cannot afford to spend then don't invite nor have a party.
  7. So don't is right!!!
  8. Darn tootin' straight!
  9. Thanks Dave. But looks like you're off topic.
  10. If you like to live on the edge then go for it!!
  11. I sure hope that is sarcasm, Gary. If not, why do you assume I'm rich? I sweated for every penny I earned. Money don't grow on trees in my backyard.
  12. Sorry, I totally disagree with the culture reasoning. Can't use culture as a convenient excuse. Because thats what it is in the Philippines - a convenient excuse created by the people because supposedly they cannot afford(?). And NO, it is not an American rule of etiquette. You can visit other parts of the world whether poor or not, the locals who you have dinner or hangout with will not permit you to foot the bill. I will be going to a remote part of Thailand soon, staying with locals who have already assured me accommodations and meals on them. I was not asking for that. Thats just how they are. Although I would most likely contribute but they are not expecting me to foot the bill for anything. I am the visitor. Scott, what you are also saying therefore is - if a Pinoy comes to the US then I should expect them to foot the bill when we dine out - because that is their culture. Or am I wrong about that??? The example of OFWs visiting family may be an exception since they are family. Although, I for one would be treating my visiting family instead of them treating me. As far as cost of living in the Philippines, Yes I am basing it on the same life style as I live now. I can live cheaply in the US too and stretch my dollar. But that means living a few notches below how I live now. So, yes, you can live just as cheaply in the Philippines. But why would I go there and dial down my lifestyle when I can do the same in the US???? So, I am comparing apples to apples - not apples to mango.
  13. So that's the mentality of Pinoys? Foreigners are rich? Never mind that they are your guests? So you let guests pay instead of the host paying? WTF!!! Part of the problem is the Philippines is not any cheaper as it is in the US. This notion that its cheap to retire there is hogwash!!
  14. Bottom line - you have to develop an immunity to the bacteria there. I love pretty much all seafood. But whenever I visit, I avoid eating anything close to raw. Sometimes even when its well cooked. I had issues once and once is enough!
  15. Sorry for the rant but I do not understand why as visitor from the US I am expected to pay for the meal when eating out. We recently had a get together with some friends while passing thru on a cruise. We made them aware that we will be in town so they arranged for dinner at the Manila Hotel. Mind you these are professionals (doctors, lawyers). None of them lifted a finger to pay the tab. We are visitors to their country for heavens sake. When I have people visiting us we treat them!! So much for the so-called Filipino hospitality.
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