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Looking for a cheap good running multicab. Not anything fancy. Just need something to get around in to find a new rental place here in cebu and transport our things to our new home. If I can not find one that is cheap enough I can always rent one for now.

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After looking thru all the classified ads online we could find we finally decided to buy one from Rusco. Cost was a bit high but at least we found one that runs. Now if I can figure out how to get my legs and feet to fit in it to drive it.

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After looking thru all the classified ads online we could find we finally decided to buy one from Rusco. Cost was a bit high but at least we found one that runs. Now if I can figure out how to get my legs and feet to fit in it to drive it.

Good luck Rusco is not considered to be one of the better multicab builders ..... as is Shem or AJL ...... sorry I didn't know you were in such a hurry as I have been gathering up info on multicabs for a few days now .... the better companies are Atlas .... Pasajerot and Hilton ...... it is also better if you have them MAKE a cab for you as they can extend the legroom if you get a rear engine model ..... it usually just takes about from 3-5 weeks but you get to pick out what you want ..... geeeeeees sorry guy I wish I had know sooner ..... also so there is a guy named Larry (shadow) on another board who is an American and works on multicabs for a living .... he has some VERY GOOD INFO for anyone buying or working on a multicab ...... sorry can't leave a link as it is another board but just do a Google on multicabs and you will run across his posts .... he isn't on Cebu Island ....

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Sorry TRF ..... I didn't mean to sound so crude I hope your Multicab turns out just fine and you enjoy it for many years to come ..... I was only quoting from sources I have read about on the web as I too am looking to buy one real soon ..... and I personally have no experience buying one yet ..... I put a lot of stock in what Larry (shadow) form Dumaguete says as he repairs them and has for a few years ..... not sure if he is a member here or not ..... anyway sorry for the remark I made and enjoy your new hoss ...... :mocking:

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After looking thru all the classified ads online we could find we finally decided to buy one from Rusco. Cost was a bit high but at least we found one that runs. Now if I can figure out how to get my legs and feet to fit in it to drive it.

Good luck Rusco is not considered to be one of the better multicab builders ..... as is Shem or AJL ...... sorry I didn't know you were in such a hurry as I have been gathering up info on multicabs for a few days now .... the better companies are Atlas .... Pasajerot and Hilton ...... it is also better if you have them MAKE a cab for you as they can extend the legroom if you get a rear engine model ..... it usually just takes about from 3-5 weeks but you get to pick out what you want ..... geeeeeees sorry guy I wish I had know sooner ..... also so there is a guy named Larry (shadow) on another board who is an American and works on multicabs for a living .... he has some VERY GOOD INFO for anyone buying or working on a multicab ...... sorry can't leave a link as it is another board but just do a Google on multicabs and you will run across his posts .... he isn't on Cebu Island ....

Mike, is this "Mandaue Atlas Motors" you are referring to? I'm also in the market for a minivan. A good mate of mine is living in the hills at Consolacion and he bought an automatic minivan for his missus to drive a few months ago but it won't go up the steep hills to their house.He now has a manual 4wd ute and is offering the minivan to me for Php130,000. It has aircon, is neat and tidy and as mentioned it is automatic, i don't know who assembled it and neither does my mate.Is that a fair price?

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Damn Bundy .... I don't know how I missed your post ... I guess blame it on old age ..... :hystery: :hystery: ...... I personally have not heard anything good about the auto-tranny's in the multicabs .... the engines are just to small unless you just want to putt around town ..... I was hooked on a rear engine van with the 12 valve 2x4 and 5 speed tranny ..... today I just heard that for what we will be using it for ..... traveling from here to Bacolod that I need a 4x4 to make it through the mountains and I don't think they make a rear engine van in 4x4 .... so it is back to the drawing board ..... I have tons of info that I have copied from other sources but I'm not sure if Tom will let me post it here as it is quite extensive ....

Here is just a sample ..... maybe I could break it up into several posts so as not to cause to many problems ......

Actually there is a LOT more to it than that. In Suzuki, you have mostly F5A, F5B, and F6A engines. The F5A is generally sluggish and useful for only flat ground, or with the 4 speed 4WD, has low range, so will go anywhere if you are patient with it.

The F5B comes in 6, 9, and 12 valve configurations, and quite frankly you will not be able to tell the power difference between any of them and the F6A, which comes in 12 valve only. The reason you will not be able to tell the difference is, there is no horsepower difference. They are rated the same. The difference is where they develop the horsepower at. The 12 valve F6A develops the power at a slightly lower engine RPM than does the F5B 6, 9, and 12 valve.

MUCH more important than the engine the unit has, is the TRANSMISSION the unit has. There are 4 speed, 5 speed, 4 speed with dual range, 5 speed with dual range, 5 speed without dual range but with a granny low, and 5 speed without dual range OR granny low. (Let's pretend for now there are no automatics) For hauling stuff up the mountain and rugged use, a 6 valve with dual range 4 speed transmission will be much more of a workhorse than a 12 valve without dual range.

The transmission is the heart of these units. A 4WD with dual range is in essence a small tractor with a mini truck body. A 12 valve pickup without dual range is just that, a very small pickup.

Pick the unit that best serves your purpose. Your satisfaction with the unit will depend on it.

Larry

Manufacturer Suzuki

Production 1988–1994

Engine 547 cc F5B I3

657 cc F6A I3

Transmission 4/5-speed manual

3-speed automatic

Suzuki F engine — 0.5–0.8 L; The F5A was a three-cylinder version of the F8A "four".

F5A — 543 cc (33.1 cu in) (62.0 x 60.0mm)

1980–1984 Suzuki Alto/Fronte SS40S/V

1984.09–1988.09 Suzuki Alto CA/CC71, CA/CC72

1980.09–1989.10 Suzuki Carry/Every ST40/41, DA/DB71

1982–1988 Suzuki Cervo SS40C

1984.09–1988.09 Suzuki Fronte CB71, CB/CD72

1986.01–1990.03 Suzuki Jimny JA71

1983–1988 Suzuki Mighty Boy SS40T

F5B — 547 cc (33.4 cu in) (65.0 x 55.0mm)

1988.02–1990.05 Suzuki Cervo

1988.10–1990.03 Suzuki Alto CL/CM/CN/CP11

1988.10–1989.04 Suzuki Fronte CN/CP11

1989.05–1990.03 Suzuki Carry/Every DA/DB41 (also labelled Autozam Scrum DG/DH41)

1989.10–1990.02 Autozam Carol AA5PA/AA5RA

F6A — 657 cc (40.1 cu in) (65.0 x 66.0mm)

1990.03–1994.11 Suzuki Alto / Alto Hustle

1994.11–1998.10 Suzuki Alto HA/HB/HC/HD11

1998.10–2000.12 Suzuki Alto HA12 / Mazda Carol

Suzuki Cappuccino

Suzuki Cara

Suzuki Carry

1990.07–1998.10 Suzuki Cervo Mode CN/CP21S, CN/CP22S

Suzuki Every

1995–1998 Suzuki Jimny JA12

F8B — 796 cc (48.6 cu in) (68.5 x 72.0mm)

1981.07–1984 Suzuki Alto SS80

1984–1994 Suzuki Alto SB308 (also by Chang'an, Jiangbei, Jiangnan and Xian)

Daewoo Tico/Fino (also by Anchi)

1991–present Daewoo Damas/Labo/Attivo (also labelled Chevrolet CMV/CMP)

Maruti 800

1984–present Maruti Omni

In our place, the suzuki carry that has a round headlight with a box casing is the older version then comes next with the round eye with round casing then the cat eye as we call it here...the rectangle shape headlights. And lastly, the big eye with a snub nose :D Biggie headlights with a larger body and much more legroom.

Then, within 10 minutes of googling by codes...it shows the ff:

Not the complete list I believe. Got this one at wiki

Chassis prefixes for Japanese domestic market Suzuki Carry trucks

1988 Chassis prefix was DB41T/B engine F5a 550cc 6 valve or F5B 550cc 12 valve dohc carborator

1988-89 chassis prefix was DB71T/B (where the truck is a tip deck "B" is used in prefix not "T") engine F5a, F5b or F6a 660cc 3 cylinder 12 valve carborator

1990-91 Chassis prefix was DB51T/B engine F6a carborator

1992-99 chassis prefix was DD51T/B (or SK306T though this is thought to be export only) all F6a

1999-02 chassis prefix was DB52T/B/V (where "v" is van) engine new gen F6A (fuel injector all alloy)

2003-08 chassis prefix was DA63T/B engine change to K6A (fuel injected and timing chain) 660cc 3 cylinder

these prefixes are the same whether the vehicle is a Mazda Scrum or Suzuki Carry

I set the valve lash of my f6a at 0.10mm intake and 0.12mm exhaust. These are hot numbers. I'm not sure what the cold values are.

Mehran 800

1983–2009 Suzuki Bolan ST308 (Pakistani Carry)

F8C — 796 cc (48.6 cu in) (68.5 x 72.0mm)

Daewoo Tico/Fino

F8D — 796 cc (48.6 cu in) SOHC 12-valve (68.5 x 72.0mm)

Maruti 800, Maruti Alto

Well that was just F*cking brilliant ...... I just managed to wipe out 3 days worth of downloading multicab info in the blink of an eye ..... damn I love computers ..... guess I'm over tired ..... I get you some more info tomorrow before I do something else equally as stupid ....

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Hey guys,

I had this Jeep Wrangler assembled in Pasig (suburb of Manila) with my personal specs built into it.

I requested the suspension be raised a couple inches to accommodate larger tires; fully enclosed

to have it air conditioned; and slightly extended to seat 7 passengers.

Half way through the assembly, I had the opportunity to select a surplus engine/transmission from

Japan. I was brought to this large warehouse full of auto parts and at least a dozen engines sitting

on the floor. I selected a large block 4 banger (Suzuki 2.4L) with a 2 barrel carburetor (I'm old school).

Upon selection, this guy comes over with a portable battery, threw some gas in the fuel line, went

through all the gears, including reverse (manual stick) and then had it mounted the following week.

I think the price was around $7K (280,000 pesos) back in 1993. It was the family workhorse, travelling

throughout Luzon, crossing shallow rivers and muddy mountain roads in Mindoro. The photo below is

similar to what I purchased but had larger radial tires and dark tinted windows:

post-686-0-25838500-1343915952_thumb.jpg

Perhaps when I go back to PI, I might have them assemble a scaled down Hummer that seats only 5.

post-686-0-77784200-1343915892_thumb.jpgHey Mike S, can I borrow your M-60?

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OK here's a bit more info on multicabs as I copied from various sites .... still haven't found the stuff I lost yesterday but I'm still looking ......

Actually there is a LOT more to it than that. In Suzuki, you have mostly F5A, F5B, and F6A engines. The F5A is generally sluggish and useful for only flat ground, or with the 4 speed 4WD, has low range, so will go anywhere if you are patient with it.

The F5B comes in 6, 9, and 12 valve configurations, and quite frankly you will not be able to tell the power difference between any of them and the F6A, which comes in 12 valve only. The reason you will not be able to tell the difference is, there is no horsepower difference. They are rated the same. The difference is where they develop the horsepower at. The 12 valve F6A develops the power at a slightly lower engine RPM than does the F5B 6, 9, and 12 valve.

MUCH more important than the engine the unit has, is the TRANSMISSION the unit has. There are 4 speed, 5 speed, 4 speed with dual range, 5 speed with dual range, 5 speed without dual range but with a granny low, and 5 speed without dual range OR granny low. (Let's pretend for now there are no automatics) For hauling stuff up the mountain and rugged use, a 6 valve with dual range 4 speed transmission will be much more of a workhorse than a 12 valve without dual range.

The transmission is the heart of these units. A 4WD with dual range is in essence a small tractor with a mini truck body. A 12 valve pickup without dual range is just that, a very small pickup.

Pick the unit that best serves your purpose. Your satisfaction with the unit will depend on it.

Manufacturer Suzuki

Production 1988–1994

Engine 547 cc F5B I3

657 cc F6A I3

Transmission 4/5-speed manual

3-speed automatic

Suzuki F engine — 0.5–0.8 L; The F5A was a three-cylinder version of the F8A "four".

F5A — 543 cc (33.1 cu in) (62.0 x 60.0mm)

1980–1984 Suzuki Alto/Fronte SS40S/V

1984.09–1988.09 Suzuki Alto CA/CC71, CA/CC72

1980.09–1989.10 Suzuki Carry/Every ST40/41, DA/DB71

1982–1988 Suzuki Cervo SS40C

1984.09–1988.09 Suzuki Fronte CB71, CB/CD72

1986.01–1990.03 Suzuki Jimny JA71

1983–1988 Suzuki Mighty Boy SS40T

F5B — 547 cc (33.4 cu in) (65.0 x 55.0mm)

1988.02–1990.05 Suzuki Cervo

1988.10–1990.03 Suzuki Alto CL/CM/CN/CP11

1988.10–1989.04 Suzuki Fronte CN/CP11

1989.05–1990.03 Suzuki Carry/Every DA/DB41 (also labelled Autozam Scrum DG/DH41)

1989.10–1990.02 Autozam Carol AA5PA/AA5RA

F6A — 657 cc (40.1 cu in) (65.0 x 66.0mm)

1990.03–1994.11 Suzuki Alto / Alto Hustle

1994.11–1998.10 Suzuki Alto HA/HB/HC/HD11

1998.10–2000.12 Suzuki Alto HA12 / Mazda Carol

Suzuki Cappuccino

Suzuki Cara

Suzuki Carry

1990.07–1998.10 Suzuki Cervo Mode CN/CP21S, CN/CP22S

Suzuki Every

1995–1998 Suzuki Jimny JA12

F8B — 796 cc (48.6 cu in) (68.5 x 72.0mm)

1981.07–1984 Suzuki Alto SS80

1984–1994 Suzuki Alto SB308 (also by Chang'an, Jiangbei, Jiangnan and Xian)

Daewoo Tico/Fino (also by Anchi)

1991–present Daewoo Damas/Labo/Attivo (also labelled Chevrolet CMV/CMP)

Maruti 800

1984–present Maruti Omni

In our place, the suzuki carry that has a round headlight with a box casing is the older version then comes next with the round eye with round casing then the cat eye as we call it here...the rectangle shape headlights. And lastly, the big eye with a snub nose :D Biggie headlights with a larger body and much more legroom.

Then, within 10 minutes of googling by codes...it shows the ff:

Not the complete list I believe. Got this one at wiki

Chassis prefixes for Japanese domestic market Suzuki Carry trucks

1988 Chassis prefix was DB41T/B engine F5a 550cc 6 valve or F5B 550cc 12 valve dohc carborator

1988-89 chassis prefix was DB71T/B (where the truck is a tip deck "B" is used in prefix not "T") engine F5a, F5b or F6a 660cc 3 cylinder 12 valve carborator

1990-91 Chassis prefix was DB51T/B engine F6a carborator

1992-99 chassis prefix was DD51T/B (or SK306T though this is thought to be export only) all F6a

1999-02 chassis prefix was DB52T/B/V (where "v" is van) engine new gen F6A (fuel injector all alloy)

2003-08 chassis prefix was DA63T/B engine change to K6A (fuel injected and timing chain) 660cc 3 cylinder

these prefixes are the same whether the vehicle is a Mazda Scrum or Suzuki Carry

I set the valve lash of my f6a at 0.10mm intake and 0.12mm exhaust. These are hot numbers. I'm not sure what the cold values are.

Mehran 800

1983–2009 Suzuki Bolan ST308 (Pakistani Carry)

F8C — 796 cc (48.6 cu in) (68.5 x 72.0mm)

Daewoo Tico/Fino

F8D — 796 cc (48.6 cu in) SOHC 12-valve (68.5 x 72.0mm)

Maruti 800, Maruti Alto

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And still some more info .... if parts are duplicated please forgive me as I was copying from a bunch of other sources ......

Actually there is no power difference between the F5B 6 valve and the F6A 12 valve, but there is a little difference in the RPM they develop the power. The F5A 6 valve on the other hand is noticeably less powerful than the other two.

I've also had some positive dealings with Bal.

When it comes to engine work, the 6 valve of course is much simpler to work on than the 9 and 12 valve models, and also has fewer moving parts to wear out. Contrary to popular belief, there is very little power difference between the models. The difference is at the RPM where the engine developes the power, the 12 valve developing the power at a lower RPM.

Generally, they are very easy to work on. Few have any electronics save for CDI ignition. (there are a few fuel injected models in teh later years) The front engine 4 wd drive models have the engine under the seats, while the front engine 2 wd have the engine set back a little further, under the front of the bed. The rear engine models of course have the engine under the rear, like a Volkswagen bus.

Probably the best configuration for your use would be a 2 WD rear engine Scrum model. The 12 valve with 5 speed transaxle should net you 13 KPL on the highway, 10+ around town, while delivering great accessibility for dogs and luggage. The rear engine design means the engine weight is on the drive wheels, you will not likely be stuck anywhere you need to go. Overall a terrific choice for someone who does mostly city driving and occasional rougher terrains and/or moderate loads.

One more point to make about the rear engine Scrum model, it is easy to modify the front seat brackets to accomodate larger human body types. The other models not so easy.

I bought mine at Pasajero, which I believe is one of the top multicab assemblers in Cebu. I visited their factory in Talisay before I bought it and was impressed.

Pasajero is probably the best of the lot. REliance also seems to do good work. I currently am driving one from Pasajero. (the old EL Gecko blue one)

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