Dougbert Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 I find this stuff fascinating. Have any of you read the book "Blind Man's Bluff"? Thank you Dougbert for the heads up. The book was widely acclaimed in Amazon. It's only 13 bucks and I'm gonna order it soon: http://www.amazon.com/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine-Espionage/dp/006097771X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1382927749&sr=1-1&keywords=Blind+Man%27s+Bluff I bought the regular paperback sized one which should be cheaper than that. There are some pics, so maybe its worth a little extra for the easy reader size... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i am bob Posted November 1, 2013 Posted November 1, 2013 Well since they've declassified it, here's an article on what we Submariners do: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/cold-war-exploits-of-australias-secret-submarines/story-e6frg6z6-1226742599268?sv=4c36ce2811be83184b40d41b980e7b1f Fun times. I missed out on much of that having served for 3 years on a US boomer submarine. Though we did have a few exciting times. I have already mentioned a few of those in other threads. Brett, just between me and you, there are only two types of ships.... submarines... and targets. Being one of the guys who made sure a helo was hovering over your heads and thus could not surface, it's kind of funny that, in home port, a lot of my friends were submariners. Sent by Gaseous Monkeys using tin cans, a very long string and Tapatalk... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted November 2, 2013 Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) Well since they've declassified it, here's an article on what we Submariners do: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/cold-war-exploits-of-australias-secret-submarines/story-e6frg6z6-1226742599268?sv=4c36ce2811be83184b40d41b980e7b1f Fun times. I missed out on much of that having served for 3 years on a US boomer submarine. Though we did have a few exciting times. I have already mentioned a few of those in other threads. Brett, just between me and you, there are only two types of ships.... submarines... and targets. Being one of the guys who made sure a helo was hovering over your heads and thus could not surface, it's kind of funny that, in home port, a lot of my friends were submariners. Sent by Gaseous Monkeys using tin cans, a very long string and Tapatalk... Of all the different forces in the US Navy, I believe the submarine force will be the last man standing. The airborne assets and the Marines are critically dependent on their mother ships, provided they're still afloat. I was in charge on one of the lifeboat station during abandon ship drill. A young inquisitive sailor ask where the nearest land might be -- I said the bottom, about 3 miles. Yeah, the surface navy are easy targets. I mentioned before that I failed a highly classified tactical training class. My assignment was to arrange my battle group (Nimitz class aircraft carrier and escorts) steaming into a choke point (Strait of Malacca) against enemy subs. I used all kinds of assets for my safe passage: and ASW (anti-sub warfare) helicopters like the one Bob was on, dropping his fart bombs. But to no avail, my carrier got hit at her stern with both harpoons and torpedoes. All this time, a lone enemy sub was laughing through the periscope -- another surface target engaged and destroyed. Time to hit Pattaya for some root rat sampling! The modern subs are like a blacked out Ninja warrior: Respectfully -- Jake (surface target sinking) Edited November 2, 2013 by Jake spill chek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i am bob Posted November 2, 2013 Posted November 2, 2013 Ah! The submarine force may be the last one in action but, as we send the helos out and then don't have much to do, you know we zoomies are the first one warming the seats at the bar! :) Sent by Gaseous Monkeys using tin cans, a very long string and Tapatalk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnb Posted November 13, 2013 Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) Ok first of all I'm ex Army, the only thing I know about submarines is the old joke about going up and down and being full of thick ................. Anyway I have an American guy staying with me at the moment, who has some navel bits and bobs that he acquired over the years, one item is a small brass looking cup, stamped on it is "1/2 gill HM submarines" which i assume is the old tot of rum from Her Majesty Navy, he also has a bag of ships name plates [ approx 100] all brass oval shaped a little larger than a dog tag, with things such as "W.R.NO.2 S-113PROM.DK" "PASS. TO PASS. B-DK. FR169P" "W.R. NO.2 TECH. OBSERV.E-4" stamped on them, the name plates don't have any reference to any country, just wondered if any of you navy guys might shed some light. John Edited November 13, 2013 by johnb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettGC Posted November 13, 2013 Author Posted November 13, 2013 Ok first of all I'm ex Army, the only thing I know about submarines is the old joke about going up and down and being full of thick ................. Anyway I have an American guy staying with me at the moment, who has some navel bits and bobs that he acquired over the years, one item is a small brass looking cup, stamped on it is "1/2 gill HM submarines" which i assume is the old tot of rum from Her Majesty Navy, he also has a bag of ships name plates [ approx 100] all brass oval shaped a little larger than a dog tag, with things such as "W.R.NO.2 S-113PROM.DK" "PASS. TO PASS. B-DK. FR169P" "W.R. NO.2 TECH. OBSERV.E-4" stamped on them, the name plates don't have any reference to any country, just wondered if any of you navy guys might shed some light. John The first one sounds about right. As for the other's I can only guess they're compartment/passageway labels. The numbers seem to indicate frame numbers, which is a method of location markings so maybe an older method? DK - Deck, PAss. - Passageway? I know that's not how they designate compartments now, but it may have been the case in the past. Different countries or alliances use different systems. Basically, they're an abbreviated form of compartment "names", by location. If you know the system, but you don't know the layout of a particular vessel, you can work out where you need to be quickly by the compartment designator; particularly useful in damage control. So as an example 2-233-4-L translates as 2 (2 deck - one deck below the main deck that the superstructure sits on), 233 (frame 233, most forward frame in the compartment, counted from the pointy end of the ship), 4 (Second compartment to starboard - odds to starboard, evens to port, 0 on the centreline - from the centreline) and L (single letter designator for a living space). Sorry I can't shed more light on the particular system you have on the plates there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i am bob Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 The first I agree with completely. The brass tags sound like the brass plate you would find on smaller junction boxes maybe? As in electrical distribution? Hey! What do I know? I was a zoomie ..! Sent by Gaseous Monkeys using tin cans, a very long string and Tapatalk... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettGC Posted November 14, 2013 Author Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) The first I agree with completely. The brass tags sound like the brass plate you would find on smaller junction boxes maybe? As in electrical distribution? Hey! What do I know? I was a zoomie ..! Sent by Gaseous Monkeys using tin cans, a very long string and Tapatalk... You're right! As soon as I read your post Bob it all came flooding back!! Wasn't a techie but saw those things all over the place, normally tagged whilst the techies performed planned destruction (they called it maintenance, we knew the truth!). Mystery solved. Oh well, at least I gave you all a lesson/refresher in location markings... Who knows when that may come in handy :cheersty: ! Edited November 14, 2013 by BrettGC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnb Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Thanks Guys. I'll show these pages to my mate, it might solve a mystery for him, the bag of brass is probably a collection for sales as scrap cos whilst looking threw it I found some brass plumbing fittings, shame to think the history behind the I/2 gill measure was steaming toward a scrap merchant, hopefully he'll just keep the gill shine it up and drop a tot of Tandori down his neck from time to time on remembrance day. John :tiphat: Edited November 14, 2013 by johnb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i am bob Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 The first I agree with completely. The brass tags sound like the brass plate you would find on smaller junction boxes maybe? As in electrical distribution? Hey! What do I know? I was a zoomie ..! Sent by Gaseous Monkeys using tin cans, a very long string and Tapatalk... You're right! As soon as I read your post Bob it all came flooding back!! Wasn't a techie but saw those things all over the place, normally tagged whilst the techies performed planned destruction (they called it maintenance, we knew the truth!). Mystery solved. Oh well, at least I gave you all a lesson/refresher in location markings... Who knows when that may come in handy :cheersty: ! Good thing you have an Air Force guy looking after all you Navy types... Hehe! Sent by Gaseous Monkeys using tin cans, a very long string and Tapatalk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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