Splashing The Cash......

[Kuya John]

After a somewhat busy weekend here in UK, It was two conversations which started me thinking.

The first one was from an Englishman's point of view, which basically said that Filipina's married to foreigners were more or less expected to pay for everything when visiting "Home".

The guy complained to me that the circle of family grew everyday they were visiting. he then quoted another guy who in similar circumstances, after a couple of weeks of paying for everything, decided to let someone else foot the bill that night, only to find everyone disappeared never to be seen again!

On the other hand a very good friend of mine here in the UK, a Filipino, was telling me of his wife's plight with family back home. Sadly in a short space of time, she lost her Mom, her Uncle and an Aunty, family back home were contacting her asking for money. She being a good person sent what she could afford to help with medical bills etc etc.The conversation turned to rich relatives back home who felt no obligation to contribute.

It would appear that rich Filipino's families living in Philippines, do not feel the same obligation's as those who came from poorer backgrounds and travelled abroad to seek work and live.

Apparently some familes own vast parcels of land, but refuse to sell any, at the time of family needs.

While I feel whole heartly for those in desperate need there is a saying, "Charity begins at home".

[Dave Hounddriver]

It would appear that rich Filipino's families living in Philippines, do not feel the same obligation's as those who came from poorer backgrounds

 

They have learned that the poor relations will always be poor and so will they if they keep giving.  They have also learned that the poor relations usually want handouts without working for them.  I know of quite a few wealthy families who give jobs to their poor relations IF the poor folk will do the work as well as a non related employee.  It is my observation that the 'very' poor are that way because they would rather be victims than victors.

[Kuya John]

It is my observation that the 'very' poor are that way because they would rather be victims than victors.

You may well be right in a lot of cases Dave,

They have learned that the poor relations will always be poor and so will they if they keep giving.

And that goes for all of us, as I found out after I married my wifes family!

[stevewool]

Welcome to the real world, its hard for us westerners to understand how they really live there lives in the Philippines even when married to there sister or daughter

I have found out from standing back and watching how just my wives family are, and remember its either seen by me or has been told to me by my wife,

To me the sons and husbands from any family are lazy and expect the women to look after them , the daughters leave home to live with the inlaws and then all the money they earn goes towards there husbands family first,

Since my wife has been here there has been the phone calls, well skype calls they are free asking for this and that, but its funny you never hear from them asking how she is, we did try to give them some things but rather then just give it we said it was there Xmas present,

But i have also said no too more times now then before, and what has this done , well they dont speak to me but am i bothered , NOT AT ALL

Like you say keep them poor that is what they do to themselves , whats the saying they all love there families, yer right

[Thomas]

The first one was from an Englishman's point of view, which basically said that Filipina's married to foreigners were more or less expected to pay for everything when visiting "Home".

TRADITIONALY that goes for the expected most rich in the group UNDEPENDING of nationality,

but some wealthier Filipinos have skiped following that.

I know of quite a few wealthy families who give jobs to their poor relations IF the poor folk will do the work as well as a non related employee.

That will probably be my strategy too, if my future family-in-law start asking me for money.  (They haven't asked for any, although they are very poor.)

It is my observation that the 'very' poor are that way because they would rather be victims than victors.

I don't know who you are counted to very poor,

I agree with you, if you mean the poor, who are to lazy or just sit and WAIT hoping God will solve their problems,

but I don't agree with you, if you mean them, who try their best, but don't manage to get out of powerty anyway.  It's very hard to solve it when not belonging to them with useful contacts or some start capital. It's very hard to earn money, if not having start capital. As some rich American said "The first million was the hardest".

 

An other from start rather poor Filipino, who has succeeded rather good, told the tip to ambitious poor presumtive entrepreneaurs:

"Move to a biger city, DON'T try to start in your home province, because in the provinces the rich landlords, politicians and traders WILL NOT LET ANY NEW ONE IN AMONG THEM." :bash:

 

OFFICIALY there are several support programs in Phils CLAIMING to be for poor to get start capital to own businesses,

BUT a Filipino had made a proper business plan, but told very frustrated the program handler demanded COLLATERAL to let him get part of that program!!!   :1 (103):   If he would have collateral, then he wouldn't need that program...

[Jack Peterson]

OFFICIALY there are several support programs in Phils CLAIMING to be for poor to get start capital to own businesses, BUT a Filipino had made a proper business plan, but told very frustrated the program handler demanded COLLATERAL to let him get part of that program!!!      If he would have collateral, then he wouldn't need that program...

 

:thumbsup:

[ironmaiden]

 

It's very hard to earn money, if not having start capital.

 

 

But how do you get that? In all honesty, I still have to come across the first Filipino family that saves money. All of the families I have seen so far, if they do have money (no matter somebody gave it or they worked for it) they spend it immediately, even if they know they have important bills to pay at the end of that month (for example school for their children). When asked why they didn't save some money, they got agitated?? Asking around for money is so embedded in the culture here it seems to me it has become a complete normal thing. So the poor will always stay poor and I don't think I'm gonna here about a success story of some poor fellow who made it by working hard...

[Dave Hounddriver]

I don't think I'm gonna here about a success story of some poor fellow who made it by working hard...

 

Perhaps not today, but there is always Henry Sy:

 

His journey from the thatched hut I saw there to the shopping centers he has today is something that amazes even myself.

 

His determination, his discipline and his thriftiness have produced an astute and street smart businessman who has influenced a lot of people. Including us, his children.

 

 

[scott h]

I still have to come across the first Filipino family that saves money

 

Come to Manila, and ill introduce you to one. Wife has two brothers, both college educated. They have two daughters each, all college grads, 3 nurses and 1 computer something or other. each brother owns their own home and the only time we loan money back and forth is when a large amount is needed for some reason to show a large bank balance.

 

So they are out there :cheersty:

[ironmaiden]

 

 

Perhaps not today, but there is always Henry Sy:

 

 

 

 

If I'm not mistaken, he is from Chinese descent, not? They always seem to be more industrious, those Chinese.