Larry45 Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 I always see expats listing 'freedom' as one of the main reasons they live here, but it's usually in vague terms and never quite defined properly. Is there any validity to this, or is it just another BS reason for foreigners to explain why they came here (without being honest). And what freedoms does a foreigner actually have here? As for me, I like regulations and laws, as it keeps all the idiots in line. What's your thoughts? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bows00 Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 They are "wanted" and running from the law? Band on the Run? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewe Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) I always see expats listing 'freedom' as one of the main reasons they live here, but it's usually in vague terms and never quite defined properly. Is there any validity to this, or is it just another BS reason for foreigners to explain why they came here (without being honest). And what freedoms does a foreigner actually have here? As for me, I like regulations and laws, as it keeps all the idiots in line. What's your thoughts? Not to get too political here but I think this is sometimes a buzzword for people who think their home country (the US for example) is too restrictive. For example my wife can't believe that we can't burn our leafs in our OWN yard. The irony is that the freedom that people have in the Philippines to do whatever they want are the very things that so many expats hate: Karaoke at 3:AM - "It's my house. I can do what I want." Driving - We're pissed when laws aren't enforced. Two standards of treatment for "locals" and "foreigners" - There should be a law against it. What law? And if such a law existed who would enforce it? Pollution - What laws. Well you get the idea. I agree with the OP and prefer the rule of law and someone to enforce it. But I do find it fun in the Philippines watching people do whatever they want. Edited March 30, 2015 by davewe 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMook Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 freedom to love younger women. most of us would get crazy looks at home. hel;l a 60yr old man with a 25 yr old wife and 2 small children would be frowned upon. here the freedom is not being home and being able to love who you want without the obvious scrutiny 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuya John Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 After 51 years of working my butt off, Retirement is Freedom. Another form is to be able to speak your mind without fear of reprisals. http://www.naturalnews.com/quotes/Quote-Freedom-Truth-Dalai-Lama.jpg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Mike J Posted March 30, 2015 Forum Support Posted March 30, 2015 Another form is to be able to speak your mind without fear of reprisals. Be very careful with that one here in the Philippines. You could be speaking the truth and still be found guilty for defamation and libel. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Old55 Posted March 30, 2015 Forum Support Posted March 30, 2015 Another form is to be able to speak your mind without fear of reprisals. Be very careful with that one here in the Philippines. You could be speaking the truth and still be found guilty for defamation and libel. Speaking your mind in Philippines could be a deadly choice. Worst case but still happens. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Glatt Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Don't know if I've ever lived in freedom, perhaps the next life.........a long time from now. So if we've never had it how do you miss it? I do like moving and living in different places (usually on rent day) as I consider different an adventure and feel sorry for those that stay 'home'. I know many people, in my own extended family, or friends and people I've work with who will say I can't leave this is home. Some will tell tales of their great x 3 grand fathers uncles buried there. To this I say "Did them a lot of good huh?" Some of us were raised or some how picked up the insatiable desire to see the other side of the mountain to speak and eat and drink with all those folks who do things so differently and of course wrongly than me. When they start to ask you for things other than help w/money raising or volunteering..they know you too well time to go. there are many adventures to live many friends to make, besides I have acquired 47??+/- nieces and nephews and only spoke face to face with two. Almost all have children so for the next few years I plan an e-register of Fe's and my family with professions birthdays contact info, I then can sell that info to other family members as they are spread throughout the RP, UAE, Norway Germany Canada and US, I would bet that there are other places that are unknown. Instant world networking for education skills or just a place to say Hi and get a home cooked meal when traveling. Anyway that is my rationel for a place in RP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Glatt Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Another form is to be able to speak your mind without fear of reprisals. Be very careful with that one here in the Philippines. You could be speaking the truth and still be found guilty for defamation and libel. :bash: It is not libel nor defamation if it's true. If it's not you reap what you sow. And the Philippines is not so bad as many think remember VENDETTA is an Italian word. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support scott h Posted March 31, 2015 Forum Support Posted March 31, 2015 It is not libel nor defamation if it's true. To true Gerald, to us that there were raised in the West where truth is the deciding factor. And even if it is true here in the Philippines, that's not to stop them from filing a case, or threatening. If someone files a complaint here, they could drag a person through the system for months, unless you reach a "fair" agreement in mediation. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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