Larry45 Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 If you've ever been close to someone that lost a parent in their childhood or teen years, you know it can take a terrible toll on them. It's a life-changing loss. Why create a scenario where that's a strong possibility? When asking "why create a scenario" where this is a strong possibility I see that as a defeatist attitude. I mean, I plan to live to 80, doesn't everyone? Why would I plan my life around the possibility that I may die younger and leave a child without a father? In addition, your post leaves out the calculation of how many younger fathers end up in a divorce situation where the kids don't see him anyway (vs old-timers who are there until the end). Your post also skips over the fact that younger fathers are working so much (in the navy perhaps?), so the kids don't see them hardly at all where as the old-timer is retired and there every day. We all know older expats here that have had kids at an advanced age and their arguments always seem rose-colored. And to those people 'reality' will always seem 'defeatist' or 'negative.' We all find a way to rationalize our decisions, and delusion will always be a part of that. I just sincerely believe delusion should be avoided when kids are involved. Honestly, almost all the older expats having kids are doing it to please their young wife, and the child is basically the "price of admission"....something they had to do. They take solace in knowing they will get an SSI bump. Doesn't seem like the best basis for parenthood, but that's just my opinion. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) We all find a way to rationalize our decisions, That is an excellent point. I 'rationalize' my own decisions to the point where I believe, and practice, what I 'preach'. I see that you do the same. Perhaps there are times when there are many right answers. Here's hoping :cheersty: Edited November 13, 2015 by Dave Hounddriver 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post davewe Posted November 13, 2015 Popular Post Posted November 13, 2015 If you've ever been close to someone that lost a parent in their childhood or teen years, you know it can take a terrible toll on them. It's a life-changing loss. Why create a scenario where that's a strong possibility? When asking "why create a scenario" where this is a strong possibility I see that as a defeatist attitude. I mean, I plan to live to 80, doesn't everyone? Why would I plan my life around the possibility that I may die younger and leave a child without a father? In addition, your post leaves out the calculation of how many younger fathers end up in a divorce situation where the kids don't see him anyway (vs old-timers who are there until the end). Your post also skips over the fact that younger fathers are working so much (in the navy perhaps?), so the kids don't see them hardly at all where as the old-timer is retired and there every day. We all know older expats here that have had kids at an advanced age and their arguments always seem rose-colored. And to those people 'reality' will always seem 'defeatist' or 'negative.' We all find a way to rationalize our decisions, and delusion will always be a part of that. I just sincerely believe delusion should be avoided when kids are involved. Honestly, almost all the older expats having kids are doing it to please their young wife, and the child is basically the "price of admission"....something they had to do. They take solace in knowing they will get an SSI bump. Doesn't seem like the best basis for parenthood, but that's just my opinion. A quick story cause this just happened yesterday: Three years ago I introduced my buddy online to the Pinay who would become his wife. I was already going down that route. No one at work thought much about my romantic or traveling efforts. I guess they already figured I was "delusional." But when my friend, who is well liked (loved even) at work, began to go down this route I got blamed. I kid you not - people would grab me in elevators asking me what the hell I was doing to Jim. I was a pariah at work. So what happened yesterday? We're all in a conference room at work celebrating with Jim (he's 61 BTW) and his 30 year old wife. The same people who were pissed off at me threw the party - or should I call it what it really was - a baby shower. She's due in a couple weeks. We're all "delusional" - that's why we found the Philippines. And thank goodness for it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonjack2847 Posted November 13, 2015 Author Posted November 13, 2015 We all find a way to rationalize our decisions, That is an excellent point. I 'rationalize' my own decisions to the point where I believe, and practice, what I 'preach'. I see that you do the same. Perhaps there are times when there are many right answers. Here's hoping :cheersty: Yes Dave sometimes there too many right answers makes a boy confused as such. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry45 Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 We all find a way to rationalize our decisions, That is an excellent point. I 'rationalize' my own decisions to the point where I believe, and practice, what I 'preach'. I see that you do the same. Perhaps there are times when there are many right answers. Here's hoping :cheersty: "What people believe prevails over the truth"......I always thought that quote was not meant for you, but everyone else. Yes, many different, right answers. Not trying to piss anyone off with my posts in this thread...it's just a sore spot for me. And yes, Dave :cheersty: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Not trying to piss anyone off with my posts in this thread...it's just a sore spot for me. And yes, Dave Well Larry I guess we are of the same vein, Got something to say, Say it, because holding it in is a bad thing. 9/10 it is right and a thing others won't say, OH! we will always have the Nay- Sayers but......... Jack :thumbsup: usual Sat Editing :unsure: Edited November 14, 2015 by Jack Peterson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollygoodfellow Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 It depend of how old I expect I will be, and that I believe will depend much of if my injury will heal enough to manage to exersise to get back some good stamina. Unless it's broken there are things to help with your stamina. Viagra, cialis etc :hystery: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonjack2847 Posted November 14, 2015 Author Posted November 14, 2015 It depend of how old I expect I will be, and that I believe will depend much of if my injury will heal enough to manage to exersise to get back some good stamina. Unless it's broken there are things to help with your stamina. Viagra, cialis etc :hystery: Well mine aint deficient yet so I will leave it to nature haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 It depend of how old I expect I will be, and that I believe will depend much of if my injury will heal enough to manage to exersise to get back some good stamina. Unless it's broken there are things to help with your stamina. Viagra, cialis etc :hystery: :) Well. It's two things. 1. Manage to do what you are talking about. 2. Have strength to survive the effects of that :mocking: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Glatt Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 While Fe is too old, I still practice. You know practice makes perfect, so practice, practice, practice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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