David B Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 Many topics create a debate which is a digression from the topic under discussion. Those disputes are sometimes worthy of discussion on their own merits. The bigger topic and those engaged in it don't need to see the other issue but some may wish to participate in the side discussion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B Posted June 12, 2016 Author Posted June 12, 2016 One does not attempt sarcasm. A statement is either sarcastic or it is not. The variable is how the statement is perceived by the reader. A reader who takes offense without knowing the context then sends the thread off topic. They further, either implicitly or explicitly denigrate the author of the statement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 38 minutes ago, David B said: One does not attempt sarcasm. A statement is either sarcastic or it is not. The variable is how the statement is perceived by the reader I disagree. There may be 100 readers who perceive the sarcasm while another 10 do not. So is it sarcastic or not? An emoticon for sarcasm clarifies it for the latter 10. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B Posted June 12, 2016 Author Posted June 12, 2016 Yes, as nuance isn't transmitted via text an indication is the safe bet. However, context should be considered as well. Especially if one is going to take offense, a lot of anger can be avoided by considering the previous thread. I stand by my statement that sarcasm is in the writers intent and not in the readers perception. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuya John Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 1 hour ago, David B said: One does not attempt sarcasm. A statement is either sarcastic or it is not. The variable is how the statement is perceived by the reader. A reader who takes offense without knowing the context then sends the thread off topic. They further, either implicitly or explicitly denigrate the author of the statement. Maybe you could simplify the above statement. If one does not agree with the others statement how does that become sarcasim? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B Posted June 12, 2016 Author Posted June 12, 2016 Disagreement and sarcasm are not related. I'm unaware of an example for your question. I haven't mentioned any disagreement over facts or opinions. I'm merely saying that if a person uses sarcasm, it is not for the reader to say that it is not sarcasm. Writer's intent rules, not reader's missing the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuya John Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 David you mean like.....I don,t know what your smoking but I sure would like some. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollygoodfellow Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 Philippines related off forum? Cant see anything Philippines related here? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B Posted June 13, 2016 Author Posted June 13, 2016 This is for side item discussions from other topics, related tangentially as it is an offshoot of Philippines topics. If not qualified then no harm in deleting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogo51 Posted June 13, 2016 Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) Ohh bugger this! I am off for a Pils or 6! Dry as a bloody sao baiscuit. Edited June 13, 2016 by mogo51 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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