sonjack2847 Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Ram1957 said: Actually the FB pages that cover Dumaguete treats all those that involved in illegal activity the same. If you get caught it's reported no matter who you may be. Yes this is true many stories of locals involved in crime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonjack2847 Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Gerald Glatt said: help is free and easily given in the States if a person is dumb enough to use in Asia.....well you can't fix stupid I`m not sure how good it is but they can get help here if they surrender them selves to the police. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollygoodfellow Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Gerald Glatt said: help is free and easily given in the States if a person is dumb enough to use in Asia.....well you can't fix stupid I think what you have to remember is that addiction comes after the stupid part so if you become addicted it would not matter where that person was as they will need/want their drugs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Glatt Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 29 minutes ago, Jollygoodfellow said: I think what you have to remember is that addiction comes after the stupid part so if you become addicted it would not matter where that person was as they will need/want their drugs. meaning they were STUPID in first place.........I know that addiction can be an awful thing and that it is not just drugs that one can be addicted to....still this is no excuse to go to a part of the world where you can and will be put to death or imprisoned for a very long time and then say help me or it is not an offense where I live ...no skin off my nose as it improves the gene pool 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shiva Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 That there are still so many stupid people not learning the lessons that owning or trading drugs in the Philippines (and other countries) are dangerous or even being deadly. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonjack2847 Posted April 25, 2018 Posted April 25, 2018 5 hours ago, Gerald Glatt said: meaning they were STUPID in first place.........I know that addiction can be an awful thing and that it is not just drugs that one can be addicted to. Untils 6-7 years ago I would have agreed with you 100%.But some addicts are very young when they start and it may just be that they were bullied into doing it in the first place.I was told stories about drugs being given out to school kids who then became addicted.Some empathy is required when discussing this subject. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Old55 Posted April 25, 2018 Forum Support Posted April 25, 2018 44 minutes ago, sonjack2847 said: Untils 6-7 years ago I would have agreed with you 100%.But some addicts are very young when they start and it may just be that they were bullied into doing it in the first place.I was told stories about drugs being given out to school kids who then became addicted.Some empathy is required when discussing this subject. I agree Kev. A number opiate addicts got addicted taking prescription medication. Some people get addicted very quickly from what I have read. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Reboot Posted April 26, 2018 Popular Post Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) Addicted people don't think straight. Their need for the fix overwhelms everything else. The wires get crossed. Many of them get hooked when young, or down and depressed, or emotionally displaced. They are truly pitiful, their souls hallowed out by addiction. These people need treatment and help rather than prison. Pushers different story. Edited April 26, 2018 by Reboot 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 11 hours ago, sonjack2847 said: I`m not sure how good it is but they can get help here if they surrender them selves to the police. I would have agreed totally with that until I saw the pic of the cop in Sibulan who was shot and lying dead on the ground with a bunch of drug paraphernalia laid out beside him. I cannot post a pic like that on this forum and I cannot find the link, but it was only last week. A picture tells a story and I think the story they are trying to tell is that even some cops are hooked on drugs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Popular Post Mike J Posted April 26, 2018 Forum Support Popular Post Posted April 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Old55 said: A number opiate addicts got addicted taking prescription medication I have degenerative disk disease and have had five back surgeries. The last was about 10 years ago. I was on pain meds for about 2 months prior to the surgery and about one month after. When I started to cut back on the pain meds during recovery I felt like I had the flu but it it went away after a few days. Then as I was showering I discovered that I still had an extended wear pain patch on my upper arm. I removed it and again felt like crap for about two or three days. That experience scared the HELL out of me and here is why. At no point while taking the pain medication did I ever feel drunk, drowsy, happy or any mood changes. What I am saying is that it is very possible to become physically addicted to pain killers even when taking them as prescribed and under the care of a physician. I had always assumed that people got hooked because of the psychological side of taking drugs but that is not the case for everyone. When required I now take paracetamol or naproxen sodium for pain. I would still take opiates if required for surgery or extreme pain, but at least I would be more cognizant of the risk involved. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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