I'm getting mixed signals from my stepson about his education.

[Old55]

I was a board member of an apprenticeship program for a large aerospace company for many years. One of my tasks was to interview applicants and review an evaluate their educational background.  College Degrees  from other countries do not equate to US degrees however the US government DO NOT regulate Foreign diploma or schools. However, legally US companies can and do in many cases.

Philippine Degrees require review we called the process Matriculation. That process was passed off to the local college that also provided classrooms for our apprenticeship students. This was one of my tasks. 

The point of this is, I know for a fact most (NOT ALL) Filipino degrees are not equivalent to US college degrees. Some are much better than others. Some degrees are not worth the paper they are written on. Also know a few 1-12 schools are better than US schools a few much better. 

Edited December 26, 2018 by Old55

[Gratefuled]

10 hours ago, Arizona Kid said:

Hard decision. Medical students who become Doctors here in the Phils,will only be qualified to become a nurse in Ca. Until they pass certain tests and requirements. Might be the same for engineers.

He wants to  become an engineer not a doctor. I'm sure the same applies to become a licensed engineer in California. One of my sons is a Licensed Civil Engineer and is employed with the US Navy Department. 

Stepson wants to remain in the Philippines. No interest in going to the USA.

[Gratefuled]

8 hours ago, OnMyWay said:

How much is tuition at Ateneo?  Give or take a little.

You can look it up and depending on what major the student takes. Some majors take longer to complete than others because of impaction. The classes required are impacted and student has to wait til next semester. My stepson would have to travel at least an hour by jeepney since our home is far from the university and no dormitory available. The time it takes is a factor. This is true even in the states. Then, there are books, and lab fees and so many other expenses like extra curricular activities.

[Gratefuled]

4 hours ago, fillipino_wannabe said:

I'd of thought a degree from Ateneo would be as good as or better than a degree from an average US college when applying for jobs in the Philippines, obviously a different story if he decides he wants to work in the US.

It depends on the major. An engineering degree will get your foot in the door easier than a Liberal Arts Degree.

[Gratefuled]

3 hours ago, Old55 said:

I was a board member of an apprenticeship program for a large aerospace company for many years. One of my tasks was to interview applicants and review an evaluate their educational background.  College Degrees  from other countries do not equate to US degrees however the US government DO NOT regulate Foreign diploma or schools. However, legally US companies can and do in many cases.

Philippine Degrees require review we called the process Matriculation. That process was passed off to the local college that also provided classrooms for our apprenticeship students. This was one of my tasks. 

The point of this is, I know for a fact most (NOT ALL) Filipino degrees are not equivalent to US college degrees. Some are much better than others. Some degrees are not worth the paper they are written on. Also know a few 1-12 schools are better than US schools a few much better. 

Another factor is the college or university where the degree was attained. Some are not recognized as "accredited". This is true for for instance for some who graduate with a degree in nursing from a non accredited school. Just because one passes the nurse exam in the Philippines does not qualify them to be an RN in the states. The school has to be accredited since there were many fake schools exposed in the Philippines and many were given the answers to tests that were suppose to qualify them.

[Old55]

38 minutes ago, Gratefuled said:

Another factor is the college or university where the degree was attained. Some are not recognized as "accredited". This is true for for instance for some who graduate with a degree in nursing from a non accredited school. Just because one passes the nurse exam in the Philippines does not qualify them to be an RN in the states. The school has to be accredited since there were many fake schools exposed in the Philippines and many were given the answers to tests that were suppose to qualify them.

All Filipino nurses must take an exam before allowed to practice in the US. 

[Gratefuled]

30 minutes ago, Old55 said:

All Filipino nurses must take an exam before allowed to practice in the US. 

Each state has its own requirements. California, I believe is the strictest while Florida is the most lenient. If the Filipinos nurse is already a legal immigrant, he/she might be required to take a particular college course to satisfy their particular need. She can be an LVN still with her Philippine RN but she has to still qualify to practice as an RN in the USA. 

During the Carter Administration, RNs from the Philippines were given free citizenship to fill the shortage of nurses at that time. The same with Philippine RNs in the Philippines who could join the US Navy and become citizens but that stopped when President Arroyo ended the US military's lease on Subic Bay. 

[scott h]

33 minutes ago, Gratefuled said:

Each state has its own requirements.

I will just throw this in. I have three nieces who are Philippine trained nurses. 2 went to the states, both needed extra courses to get nursing jobs in California. 1 got a job in Arizona working at a retirement home as some sort of nursing assistant (not an actual nurse) while she finished her requirements to get a job in California.

One moved to Australia where she worked in Chinese restaurant while she completed government required courses to get a job as a nurse there. (now she is an operating theatre nurse)

When my wife moved to the states in 94 we got her university transcripts accredited. She was given credit for graduating with an AA degree not a BA.

Conclusion? Well 4 out of 4 tells me that Philippine higher education is not on par with the States and Oz.

 

[Gratefuled]

8 minutes ago, scott h said:

I will just throw this in. I have three nieces who are Philippine trained nurses. 2 went to the states, both needed extra courses to get nursing jobs in California. 1 got a job in Arizona working at a retirement home as some sort of nursing assistant (not an actual nurse) while she finished her requirements to get a job in California.

One moved to Australia where she worked in Chinese restaurant while she completed government required courses to get a job as a nurse there. (now she is an operating theatre nurse)

When my wife moved to the states in 94 we got her university transcripts accredited. She was given credit for graduating with an AA degree not a BA.

Conclusion? Well 4 out of 4 tells me that Philippine higher education is not on par with the States and Oz.

 

There you have it. Thanks Scott. 

My wife is retired now but she was an RN Unit Manager here before she retired. She is probably too old to work as an RN in the states and I would not want her to. She does not want to live there permanently. She has Boarding Home here that she manages. 

I wonder if anyone has read about the "fake nurse degrees" here in the Philippines. There was one in Recto College in Manila that was exposed. 

[davewe]

On 12/27/2018 at 3:43 AM, Gratefuled said:

Stepson wants to remain in the Philippines. No interest in going to the USA.

So I'm confused. If he doesn't want to go to the U.S. is your motivation to convince him that it is in his long run benefit to get an education in the US or is your goal just to get him to come so that your wife will be happy?