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nor cal mike
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45 minutes ago, Jollygoodfellow said:

Then what causes the issue? unemployment, race color?  OR just bad parents? To me it starts somewhere so  it's a matter of finding that point.

Disclaimer: When I say bad parents I do not mean in the past as the subject is more or less how to solve the problem today. 

I think parents, especially old out of touch parents like myself, have to do all they can to know and be aware of the latest dangers for their children. No more “leave it to beaver” world. Unfortunately dangers lurk around every corner. As I said before, I don’t know the answer, but I intend to be involved as much as possible. 

One problem in the U.S. is both parents, out of necessity, have to work and consequently children have no supervision or direction. 

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59 minutes ago, nor cal mike said:

One problem in the U.S. is both parents, out of necessity, have to work and consequently children have no supervision or direction

Surely there is time and surely someone can direct their children in the right direction and hopefully they follow that long windy road. No one I think could tell me they can not direct their own children in the right direction. 

 

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nor cal mike
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23 minutes ago, Jollygoodfellow said:

Surely there is time and surely someone can direct their children in the right direction and hopefully they follow that long windy road. No one I think could tell me they can not direct their own children in the right direction. 

 

No doubt there are parents who do not provide guidance and direction and I’m not sure what to do other than make sure the schools provide as much drug education as possible. But there are good parents who have children that suffer from drug addiction. There are intact families with 2-3 or more children where only 1 becomes drug addicted or vise- versa. 

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28 minutes ago, Jack Peterson said:

:thumbsup: We took our then 15 year old daughter and her same age Cousin to the Dumaguete Drug rehabilitation Unit to see the Inmates while we visited another older Cousin that was in Rehab, What they saw was very upsetting BUT it seemed to have worked now that they saw 1st hand what happens to those using Drugs, I really don't think either of them will partake, Cruel? maybe sometimes shock tactics work :smile: 

Love it Jack, that is definitely in my sons future. Thanks for sharing your idea.

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1 hour ago, Jack Peterson said:

We took our then 15 year old daughter and her same age Cousin to the Dumaguete Drug rehabilitation Unit to see the Inmates while we visited another older Cousin that was in Rehab, What they saw was very upsetting BUT it seemed to have worked now that they saw 1st hand what happens to those using Drugs, I really don't think either of them will partake, Cruel? maybe sometimes shock tactics work :smile: 

Many years ago there was a program called "Scared Straight" in the USA.  They would take juvenile delinquents into a prison and put several of them into a room that also had a number of hard core criminals serving long sentences.  Most of these kids went into the room thinking they were tough enough to handle anything.  The convicts would trash talked them and told them in graphic detail what happens to young people that go to jail.  Almost every young person who went through this process left the room in tears and shaking with fear.  Some were so scared they would vomit, wet their pants, or even soil themselves.  The program was discontinued because of complaints about how "harshly" the kids were treated.  This despite the fact that guards were always present in the room and physical contact between prisoners and kids was not allowed.

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5 minutes ago, Mike J said:

The program was discontinued because of complaints about how "harshly" the kids were treated. 

:shock_40_anim_gif: And they were only visiting. Imagine it was for real :wink:

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2 hours ago, Jollygoodfellow said:

No one I think could tell me they can not direct their own children in the right direction. 

It would appear to me, seeing all the kids staring at dumb phones all day, that many parents use Waze to direct their children in the right direction.  :89:

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39 minutes ago, Mike J said:

Many years ago there was a program called "Scared Straight" in the USA.  They would take juvenile delinquents into a prison and put several of them into a room that also had a number of hard core criminals serving long sentences.  Most of these kids went into the room thinking they were tough enough to handle anything.  The convicts would trash talked them and told them in graphic detail what happens to young people that go to jail.  Almost every young person who went through this process left the room in tears and shaking with fear.  Some were so scared they would vomit, wet their pants, or even soil themselves.  The program was discontinued because of complaints about how "harshly" the kids were treated.  This despite the fact that guards were always present in the room and physical contact between prisoners and kids was not allowed.

I remember that program, it was even on t.v. I never knew what happened but I suspected that someone was butt hurt. It’s a shame but like I said before politicians often choose feel good solutions over real solutions. Now would be a great time to re-evaluate such a plan and give it a try.

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