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Maybe I missed a comment when reviewing this topic? I have thought for years that aid to poorer countries with growing populations might be tied to mandatory birth control? Yes, I realize this would be unpopular politically and also smacks of too much authority, but what else can be done to reduce population growth? Many developed countries with better educated populations are already witnessing slower population growth and even negative. But in a poor country, what other things are there to do when you don't have a cell phone or cable TV? Well you have a snuggle and....?

Heating and cooling are cyclical, I believe, but I also believe human activity has made the situation much worse and accelerated the overheating - especially since the advent of industrialization with no mind for pollution. I think greed and politics are root causes for our current situation. Few people want to pay more for power, water, recycling or higher prices for beer, Tanduay, cars homes? I just saw and article online about how soda manufacturers were on board for recycling - until it started to cost them... then they mostly bailed.

I see no easy solutions - maybe none at all. I am saddened by the legacy we already inherited and have grossly perpetuated to pass on to our children (I have none but I feel sorry for future generations who will inherit our problems).

Anyway... those are some of my opinions here... They may be wrong, but they are still my opinions...

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17 hours ago, Jollygoodfellow said:

Where is securely stored in a typhoon? If the wind destruction does not get you the flooding might. 

That would be a valid concern at most locations. Not at mine. It's 50m above sea level and slightly above the surrounding land.

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9 hours ago, Tommy T. said:

Maybe I missed a comment when reviewing this topic? I have thought for years that aid to poorer countries with growing populations might be tied to mandatory birth control? Yes, I realize this would be unpopular politically and also smacks of too much authority, but what else can be done to reduce population growth? Many developed countries with better educated populations are already witnessing slower population growth and even negative. But in a poor country, what other things are there to do when you don't have a cell phone or cable TV? Well you have a snuggle and....?

Economic growth can effect population growth. For a very poor country economic growth which results in better infrastructure for water, food, power, etc. can increase population growth. But as the economy modernizes even further population growth starts declining.

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30 minutes ago, earthdome said:

Economic growth can effect population growth. For a very poor country economic growth which results in better infrastructure for water, food, power, etc. can increase population growth. But as the economy modernizes even further population growth starts declining.

That is a valid point. However, I am thinking of fairly poor countries that I have visited - including the P. I.. It is not unusual for the very poorest to have large families of 8, 10 or more kids. In Fiji, the locals told me that having lots of kids was their version of Social Security because then all the kids would take care of the parents in their old age. I guess that, to me, some of the very poorest people have some of the largest families and that perpetuates the poverty? Pardon me for citing another example? I remember seeing an article in National Geographic a few years ago about land ownership in some poor part of Africa. There, the family typically started out with some reasonable area of land inherited from the father. Each male kid would receive an equal share upon the father's demise which effectively divided the original chunk - let's say one acre to make the example? - into tenths or eighths or whatever of an acre. Then each of these kids had large families too so the eighths were further divided again. There were photos from the latest divisions showing - in one instance - the tiny little bits of land now owned after so many divisions - big enough for a few plants for subsistence (maybe) and not much more. This was causing some rivalry among siblings including violence in the more extreme cases. And I don't see modernization going very quickly but rather aid organizations and governments just trying to get enough food and medicine to keep them from dying. And the whole situation is getting worse because of apparent climate change that is further reducing the arability of the remaining land holdings...

Sorry for the long explanation - I tend to get long winded as I try to give complete responses. I will try to keep them shorter...

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3 hours ago, Tommy T. said:

Sorry for the long explanation - I tend to get long winded as I try to give complete responses. I will try to keep them shorter...

No need to be but for easier reading a break in the continuous sentencing would help. :cheersty:

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7 hours ago, Jollygoodfellow said:

No need to be but for easier reading a break in the continuous sentencing would help.

Thanks for the tip! Sometimes I am typing so quickly to get my thoughts down with reasonable grammar before I forget them. Then I forget that basic grammar error of making paragraphs too.

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1 hour ago, Kuya John said:

Same guy who hoaxed the walrus falling to their deaths but didn't show the polar bears, possibly their own drone, that they had a cameraman blocking the safe escape route and so on,  that made them waddle off the cliff?

https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/netflix-is-lying-about-those-falling-walruses-its-another-tragedy-porn-climate-hoax

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45 minutes ago, robert k said:

Same guy who hoaxed the walrus falling to their deaths but didn't show the polar bears, possibly their own drone, that they had a cameraman blocking the safe escape route and so on,  that made them waddle off the cliff?

https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/netflix-is-lying-about-those-falling-walruses-its-another-tragedy-porn-climate-hoax

Pardon the pun but it may be a crock.

From wiki

Crockford is a signatory of the International Conference on Climate Change's 2008 Manhattan Declaration,[10] which states that "Carbon dioxide and other 'greenhouse gas' emissions from human activity...appear to have only a very small impact on global climate," and "Global cooling has presented serious problems for human society and the environment throughout history while global warming has generally been highly beneficial."[11] Between at least 2011 and 2013, she received payment from The Heartland Institute, in the form of $750 per month, which Crockford states was to provide summaries of published papers that might not have been covered by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's Fifth Assessment Report.[1] This payment has been construed as an undisclosed conflict of interest, by blogs such as Desmog Blog.[2] Her response to such claims was a disclosure of the job description, how much she was paid, and the duration of the contract.[1]

Although claims made on Crockford's blog have been called into question by polar bear scientists, the blog has been widely cited by climate change denying websites, with over 80% citing it as their primary source of information on polar bears.[12] Critics point out that none of Crockford's claims regarding the effects of climate change on polar bears has undergone peer review, nor has she ever published any peer-reviewed articles whose main focus is polar bears.[2][12] In 2017 Crockford was accused in the environmental publication The Narwhal by polar bear scientist Ian Stirling as having "zero" credibility on polar bears. “The denier websites have been using her and building her up as an expert,” he told the website.[13]

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