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14 minutes ago, GeoffH said:

That's well ahead of Australia's schedule, our pollies have announced a start next March (although I concede the situation in the UK is much more serious than in Australia which has very low numbers now).

It's going to be interesting to see what the rollout is going to be in Asia

The Oxford vaccine is already being mass produced in both Thailand and India in facilities practised already in manufacturing vaccines for the various other nasties that lurk in the region

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I like some of what our orange guy has done but the US must also recognize, support and respect our friends. Canada and GB are true proven friends.

Never fear the Pfizer vaccine, maker of Viagra.  It they can raise the dead they can surely heal the sick! 

Just announced here in the UK Oxford/Astra zenika phase 3 results Up to 90% effective Another newsfeed I found said the cost per vaccine for Pfizer and moderna would be around 35 USD wh

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6 hours ago, TerryP said:

The cavalry is coming guys

I hope that General George Custer is not leading them.

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4 minutes ago, jpbago said:

I hope that General George Custer is not leading them.

He's leading the Pfizer lot I believe

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12 hours ago, GeoffH said:

I read today that QANTAS airlines CEO has stated publicly that after vaccines become available that QANTAS will be changing their terms of travel (at least for international flights) in such a way that having had a Covid vaccine will be required to fly.  And that he expects this to be something that is done around the world.  I can't say I'm surprised, it was a pretty obvious action to take.

That should be more than enough for the "one world government", "deep state", "end times", "sign of the beast", etc. groups to really ramp up the rhetoric.  :sad:

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10 hours ago, TerryP said:

Mmm

Airline and tourism boost.

Vaccine vacation!!!

No different to years ago when I had vaccines to go to Thailand. Hep b Typhus Tetanus booster etc. Although my vaccinations were voluntary I see nothing wrong with requiring it to fly. Each to their own I guess.

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7 minutes ago, sonjack2847 said:

I see nothing wrong with requiring it to fly.

Neither do I, Airlines are (with a few exceptions) private companies and private companies are expected to minimize the liability of the company to legal action by injured customers.  An airline that failed to take reasonable 'industry standard' action to ensure (as far as practicable) the safety of their passengers and staff could be at increased risk of litigation.  And failing to require vaccination (the yellow card system) could well be interpreted as such by courts down the track.

And it's not like they're saying "you have to take a vaccine", they're only saying "we won't sell you our product and/or service if you choose not to take one" (that's free market capitalism at work *shrug*).

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I unfortunately can see some opposition to it in the UK if they try to make it compulsory.  I've been seeing a lot of selfish attitudes there especially in the last few years. I can see some throwing their toys out of the pram and Human Rights lawyers fighting it all the way.

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43 minutes ago, GeoffH said:

Neither do I, Airlines are (with a few exceptions) private companies and private companies are expected to minimize the liability of the company to legal action by injured customers.  An airline that failed to take reasonable 'industry standard' action to ensure (as far as practicable) the safety of their passengers and staff could be at increased risk of litigation.  And failing to require vaccination (the yellow card system) could well be interpreted as such by courts down the track.

And it's not like they're saying "you have to take a vaccine", they're only saying "we won't sell you our product and/or service if you choose not to take one" (that's free market capitalism at work *shrug*).

So you say passenger, who refuse to get vaccinated, can take the airline to court because he got infected during a flight? What about personal responsibility?

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2 minutes ago, Explorer said:

So you say passenger, who refuse to get vaccinated, can take the airline to court because he got infected during a flight? What about personal responsibility?

In most jurisdictions chain of responsibility regulations would still hold an airline responsible for compensation irrespective of the passengers actions.

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4 minutes ago, Explorer said:

who refuse to get vaccinated,

I believe what Old is saying is that an airline can refuse to let a non-vaccinated person board an aircraft. :thumbsup:

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