A new possible medication to treat Covid

[Explorer]

42 minutes ago, Jack Peterson said:

 So why are we fat buggers still alive and kicking, No my friend, I have now Stopped reading Studies, the studies only want  (once again) To Start doom and Gloom Theories so that more Rubbish can be sold in forms supposedly to support Healthy Living 

Why are we fat buggers still alive and kicking? It is called "Survivorship Bias" my friend - Survivorship bias refers to the idea that we get a false representation of reality when we base our understanding only on the experiences of those who live to tell their story. As we know, "dead men tell no tales", so all those many fat buggers who died too early cannot come over to the forum and talk shit about "rubbish theories"...  

Edited March 15, 2021 by Explorer

[Jack Peterson]

Just now, Explorer said:

 "dead men tell no tales", so all those dead fat buggers cannot come over to the forum and talk shit about "rubbish theories"...  

 I wonder what tales would come forward if Autopsies were carried out on supposide Covid deaths ?

3 minutes ago, Explorer said:

so all those dead fat buggers cannot come over to the forum and talk shit about "rubbish theories"...  

    So from one fat bugger  to another  Care to explain just what you mean by this? With greatest respect it sounds you prefer Fiction to Fact which of course,  Theories rarely contain 

[Terry P]

9 hours ago, Explorer said:

 

For how many years scientists told us that obesity, smoking and excessive drinking are the three biggest modifiable risk factors increasing morbidity and mortality?

Apparently many in the West ignored science.

But now, those who ignored science are lecturing us, "Listen to the science you dummy, stand in line and take your vaccine"... 

CNN reporting -

"The risk of death from Covid-19 is about 10 times higher in countries where most of the population is overweight, according to a report released Wednesday by the World Obesity Federation.

In the US, close to three-quarters of the population is either overweight or obese, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

In the UK, 67% of men and 60% of women are overweight or obese, according to a National Health Service (NHS) report

Vietnam had one of the world's lowest Covid-19 death rates, with 0.04 deaths occurring per 100,000 people. The country's overweight population comes in at 18.3%. Other countries on the low death rate list with similar patterns include Japan, Thailand and South Korea.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/04/health/obesity-covid-death-rate-intl/index.htm

Then perhaps we should let all the fat buggers die it's their own fault for not exercising and eating junk food. 

I'm okay I'm not fat and been vaccinated

Just a dummy that's all

[Mike J]

18 hours ago, Jack Peterson said:

 I wonder what tales would come forward if Autopsies were carried out on supposide Covid deaths ?

    So from one fat bugger  to another  Care to explain just what you mean by this? With greatest respect it sounds you prefer Fiction to Fact which of course,  Theories rarely contain 

Explanation from Wikipedia - I love finding new (to me) and interesting stuff on the net.  I added the high light.

Survivorship bias or survival bias is the logical error of concentrating on the people or things that made it past some selection process and overlooking those that did not, typically because of their lack of visibility. This can lead to some false conclusions in several different ways. It is a form of selection bias.

Survivorship bias can lead to overly optimistic beliefs because failures are ignored, such as when companies that no longer exist are excluded from analyses of financial performance. It can also lead to the false belief that the successes in a group have some special property, rather than just coincidence (correlation "proves" causality). For example, if three of the five students with the best college grades went to the same high school, that can lead one to believe that the high school must offer an excellent education when, in fact, it may be just a much larger school instead. This can be better understood by looking at the grades of all the other students from that high school, not just the ones who made the top-five selection process.

Another example of a distinct mode of survivorship bias would be thinking that an incident was not as dangerous as it was because everyone communicated with afterwards survived. Even if one knew that some people are dead, they would not have their voice to add to the conversation, leading to bias in the conversation.

 

[fred]

Germany pauses AstraZeneca COVID-19 shots as a 'precaution'

 

BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany has suspended use of AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine, Health Minister Jens Spahn said on Monday, making it the latest of several European countries to hit pause following reports of blood coagulation disorders in recipients.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-astrazenec-idUSKBN2B71UM

 

[Explorer]

On 3/15/2021 at 12:03 AM, Jack Peterson said:

So from one fat bugger  to another  Care to explain just what you mean by this? 

Maybe this little rap song will help you understand what it means...

Edited March 16, 2021 by Explorer

[Explorer]

Another study, this one from the CDC, connect overweight, obesity to covid mortality and hospitalization -

"CDC study finds about 78% of people hospitalized for Covid were overweight or obese.

About 78% of people who have been hospitalized, needed a ventilator or died from Covid-19 have been overweight or obese, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in a new study Monday."

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html

[GeoffH]

15 hours ago, Explorer said:

Another study, this one from the CDC, connect overweight, obesity to covid mortality and hospitalization 

Yes, the link between obestity and bad Covid outcomes has been known for months.

That doesn't mean that fatty who lives down the road should be exposed to something that could quite possibly kill him just because his mate slim from up the road doesn't want to wear a mask or social distance.

 

Edited March 16, 2021 by GeoffH

[fred]

Going down like Dominoes.

Indonesia suspends use of AstraZeneca vaccine.

 

Indonesia has joined over a dozen countries in suspending use of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine due to the widely-reported blood clot scare.

Indonesia has received 1.1 million doses of the vaccine developed by the Anglo-Swedish pharmaceutical firm as part of the WHO-backed COVAX initiative to distribute COVID-19 vaccines to developing countries. The country is expected to receive up to 23.1 million doses of the vaccine in total.

https://coconuts.co/jakarta/news/cautious-indonesia-suspends-use-of-astrazeneca-vaccine-over-blood-clot-concerns/?fbclid=IwAR1GicHwW50JQY7AdF37_eRAAf4zqQ-8UwSRxanfuQ4UB77h0JkGvrMKnsY

 

[hk blues]

4 minutes ago, fred said:

Going down like Dominoes.

Indonesia suspends use of AstraZeneca vaccine.

 

Indonesia has joined over a dozen countries in suspending use of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine due to the widely-reported blood clot scare.

Indonesia has received 1.1 million doses of the vaccine developed by the Anglo-Swedish pharmaceutical firm as part of the WHO-backed COVAX initiative to distribute COVID-19 vaccines to developing countries. The country is expected to receive up to 23.1 million doses of the vaccine in total.

https://coconuts.co/jakarta/news/cautious-indonesia-suspends-use-of-astrazeneca-vaccine-over-blood-clot-concerns/?fbclid=IwAR1GicHwW50JQY7AdF37_eRAAf4zqQ-8UwSRxanfuQ4UB77h0JkGvrMKnsY

 

Meanwhile, Australia's Chief Medical Officer says there is no evidence linking the vaccine to blood clots. Ties in with the UK view.

I fully support any government showing an abundance of caution, but at the same time nobody ever said the AZ vaccine would prevent blood clots, heart attacks etc etc which people who have had the vaccine die from.