Plummeting Education Standards Are a National Emergency

[Mike J]

15 hours ago, Shady said:

If the discussion is the quality of education, it's the only topic.

Do you want your children educated by a system that quite literally believes math is racist and are trying to overhaul the entire curriculum?

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-05-20/california-controversial-math-overhaul-focuses-on-equity

That article is so depressing.  Math does not give a crap about skin color, religion, creed, or sex.  To hold back any person with drive and intelligence in an attempt allow slower learners to catch up is an absolute travesty.  Perhaps the California wants to "catch up" with the Philippines in math.  Reminds me of the California social experts who thought they should start teaching in Ebonics.  Even the Black community thought that was a stupid idea.  End of rant. 

[Dave Hounddriver]

1 hour ago, Jack D said:

Nowadays, students in some US schools can use calculators and smartphones during their math tests.

Even back in the day there were some who had calculators during math tests.  Texas Instruments were one of the first, as I recall.  That is because adding, subtracting, multiplication and division were/(are?) supposed to be basic skills already learned.  The tests were more about the correlation coefficient between two random variables and such.  

[Shady]

11 hours ago, OnMyWay said:

That is California.  It is not the same everywhere and that will fail in California, like everything is failing in California.

The only problem is that California is part of the US.

 

37 minutes ago, Jack D said:

A fine example of how the loser (Japan) can also rewrite history.

History is not necessarily written by the winners or losers, it's written by the nation which is teaching it to their own citizens. In a  healthy nation (Japan), history is meant to instill a sense of nationalism and national pride in the students.  In a nations infested with Marxist parasites (US, Western Europe), critical theory is used to attack the host population. Ask any American student, or really even most Americans, about the history of slavery and you'll see the results of this indoctrination.

 

[Gandang Smile]

On 5/19/2021 at 9:52 AM, scott h said:

Not having any children I really do not have a dog in this hunt. Having said THAT. 

I have 4 nieces 3 Nurses and 1 IT specialist. all in their 30's. 2 in the USA and 2 in Australia. All successful and all well educated and intelligent (well except for one who is smart but couldn't pour pee from a boot with the directions on the heel...real ding bat .

BUT....they all went to private High schools, colleges and universities.

Education here is just like everything else....First class,,,,,,,,,,if you have the Pisos 

This is largely true, with the exception of the Philippine Science High School/University of the Philippines system.

I personally met a lot of young women and men who put themselves through this learning pipeline and they are at least as bright as their privately-educated counterpart.

Plus, they have something most elite family kids will never have: they come from poor or modest background and they have a bit more of that fighting spirit, the willingness to succeed and improve their lives and those of their families.

[hk blues]

4 hours ago, Dave Hounddriver said:

Even back in the day there were some who had calculators during math tests.  Texas Instruments were one of the first, as I recall.  That is because adding, subtracting, multiplication and division were/(are?) supposed to be basic skills already learned.  The tests were more about the correlation coefficient between two random variables and such.  

In Scotland, Maths and Arithmetic were 2 separate subjects.  I'd dump maths in the sea personally for all the good I got from it.  

[OnMyWay]

4 hours ago, Shady said:

The only problem is that California is part of the US.

Climate-wise, California is the best place to live in the US, in my biased opinion.  I'm probably moving to Texas, with a smaller possibility of Florida, and a big reason is the political climate in those two states.

However, there is a tiny chance we might move to California.  I found a property I really like and I will make another post about it.

 

 

[Snowy79]

7 hours ago, hk blues said:

In Scotland, Maths and Arithmetic were 2 separate subjects.  I'd dump maths in the sea personally for all the good I got from it.  

I'm out of touch with the system in Scotland but in my day Maths and Arithmetic were seperate.  I liked the system and the maths part certainly helped me in an engineering career. Now as for the Latin I studied that was a waste, mind you I was the only male in the class. 

[graham59]

At my English Grammar/boarding School, we had separate lessons for Arithmetic, Algebra, and Geometry.

(Also separate lessons for Biology, Physics, and Chemistry. These days they just seem to do 'Science'. )

[Mike J]

11 hours ago, Snowy79 said:

Now as for the Latin I studied that was a waste, mind you I was the only male in the class. 

I enjoyed Latin.  It really helps build vocabulary as many English words are derived from Latin.  I even had the book "Winnie the Pooh" that had been translated and published in Latin.   Odd choice I know but the selection of books in Latin was extremely limited and I liked the original.  I always thought Eeyore was kind of a cool character.  

[Tommy T.]

16 hours ago, OnMyWay said:

However, there is a tiny chance we might move to California.  I found a property I really like and I will make another post about it.

Hmmm... can you say "high property and other taxes?" Not being nasty, OMW, just making sure you might go there with your eyes open... 

But... sorry... we are way off topic... again!!!

Edited May 22, 2021 by Tommy T.