Martial Law Coming for the Un-Vaxxed?

[Youngster]

17 hours ago, Gator said:

A friend in Angeles just informed me that soon those who are unvaccinated will essentially be restricted to their homes. They will only be allowed out to perform essential duties, such as food shopping, to/from work and other essential activities (not defined, but presumably to seek medical attention, etc)

It's already been effect in Angeles City at least since two days ago.  Can't go into buildings, malls, pharmacies, restaurants, etc. without "Flashing" a vaccine card.  I believe also jeepneys and taxis too.  I say flashing because not one security guard or employee ever looked at the card in detail and never asked for an ID to match the names.

[scott h]

10 hours ago, Snowy79 said:

nationwide lockdown of the unvaxed

 

3 hours ago, Youngster said:

 Can't go into buildings, malls, pharmacies, restaurants,

martial law

1. military government, involving the suspension of ordinary law.

 

The sad fact is that we have been living under martial law (by definition) since this whole mess started. At the beginning folks were just to scared of the unknown to put up any resistance. Private institutions can refuse service to whom they choose, government can restrict access to public spaces and services. But to prohibit movement and threaten arrest  of citizens is a BLATANT violation of the Phil constitution:

SECTION 6. The liberty of abode and of changing the same within the limits prescribed by law shall not be impaired except upon lawful order of the court. Neither shall the right to travel be impaired except in the interest of national security, public safety, or public health, as may be provided by law.

 

NotiSECTION 6. The liberty of abode and of changing the same within the limits prescribed by law shall not be impaired except upon lawful order of the court. Neither shall the right to travel be impaired except in the interest of national security, public safety, or public health, as may be provided by law.

 

Take note of the last 6 words. No law has been passed by congress. 

IMHO the main downside of the Phil politics is that there are no long term, mainstream political parties (republicans vs. democrats, Tories vs labor etc.) that are able to mount a forceful protest against these executive type actions. 

[GeoffH]

10 hours ago, Guy F. said:

After 2 years of quarantines, curfews and so on most populations would be close to revolt. Filipinos must be extraordinarily docile.

 

Australia has had 2 years of quarantines, curfews and more lockdowns than the Philippines.

Except for a noisy (and small) minority people are mostly ok with it... it's seen as "the lesser of two evils".

 

It's been my observation that people from the USA stress about this sort of stuff more than most of the rest of the world.

[scott h]

28 minutes ago, GeoffH said:

It's been my observation that people from the USA stress about this sort of stuff more than most of the rest of the world.

They do Geoff. Its one of those national traits that is easy to explain, but almost impossible for a non yank to really understand...sort of like pinoy pride....tea time,,haggies and warm beer 

[Gas]

23 hours ago, Gator said:

In addition, she told me she's been trying to get vaccinated, but keeps getting told "no stock". So how can the government put such regulations in place when they don't have enough vaccine for those who want it? 

 

 

 

The vaccine was readily available to everyone aged 12 or over for a couple of months. The fact is some people choose not be vaccinated as they wanted to see if us sheep died or turned into zombies! 
Realizing we were still alive there has been a sudden rush to be vaccinated. Personally I think those who are looking to have a booster should get priority over the unvaccinated if there is now a shortage. 

[Gas]

12 hours ago, Jollygoodfellow said:

Different from what I see in a news story just before as now the Police are enforcing Duterte's orders and with check points. 

What you are seeing on the news and what is really happening are too different things. Did a early morning delivery earlier and past through at least 15 towns or cities and never saw anybody being stopped. 
Totally different from what it was like in 2020. 

[Guy F.]

11 hours ago, GeoffH said:

 

Australia has had 2 years of quarantines, curfews and more lockdowns than the Philippines.

Except for a noisy (and small) minority people are mostly ok with it... it's seen as "the lesser of two evils".

 

It's been my observation that people from the USA stress about this sort of stuff more than most of the rest of the world.

Has Australia had the ridiculous mask+faceshield requirement? What about plastic shield between driver and passenger on a motorcycle? No leaving the house for seniors and children?

[Jollygoodfellow]

10 hours ago, Gas said:

What you are seeing on the news and what is really happening are too different things

Fake news and fake photos of checkpoints. Are you talking metro Manila area? 

I guess you missed the 34 checkpoints set up but some people have all the luck. 

34 NCR checkpoints to ensure unvaxxed people stay at home

MANILA – A total of 34 border checkpoints have been set up in Metro Manila to monitor the public's compliance with minimum health protocols and restrict the movement of unvaccinated persons, the National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO) said on Friday.

NCRPO spokesperson, Lt. Col. Jenny Tecson, in a radio interview, said these checkpoints are conducting visibility patrols and random checking on whether public transport vehicles are complying with the 70 percent capacity ruling and whether those going in and out of establishments and other commercial services are fully vaccinated individuals.

“Tayo po ay nagde-depende naman dun sa mga alituntunin din ng mga siyudad natin at yun ay ina-assist natin sila, tinutulugan po natin para ma-implement nang maayos dahil ang ating mandato ay matugunan or ma-prevent yung pagtaas o paglobo ng ating kaso dito sa Covid-19 at yung kanyang variant na Omicron (We also depend on the rule and ordinance of every cities and we are assisting them to implement properly because our mandate is to meet or prevent the increasing the Covid-19 case and the Omicron variant),” she said.

Tecson said they require travelers to present proof of vaccination and appropriate identification cards.

"The face on one's ID should also be the same face that appears on the vaccination cards and we have other means, we also have a database that we can check. It's more on coordination in such situations because in every city, they all want their people to be vaccinated and if they are really fully vaccinated they have a list in the database. Our call is that it is better not to use fake ones because there is a punishment),” she stressed.

Tecson added that the NCRPO checkpoints are being aided by other "allied forces" or government security troops deployed for this contingency.

The Department of the Interior and Local Government (DILG) also explained that the presence of police checkpoints requiring residents to show proof of vaccination status is being done in compliance with the directive of President Rodrigo Duterte to restrict the mobility of the unvaccinated, especially in public transportation

“The DILG and the PNP has begun implementing the measures directed by the President to contain the spread of Covid-19 in the country especially in Alert Level 3 areas where there has been an exponential increase of cases due to the transmission of the Omicron variant,” DILG Undersecretary and spokesperson Jonathan Malaya said in a statement.

He advised all motorists and commuters to bring proof of vaccination at all times if they want to be allowed entry at PNP checkpoints or when entering malls and other public places including taking public transportation.

Malaya said that the installation of checkpoints in border areas in Metro Manila and Bulacan is also in compliance with the ordinances passed by Local Government Units restricting the mobility of the unvaccinated.

Quezon City, for instance, has already passed Ordinance 3076 last January 4, which requires all unvaccinated individuals to remain in their homes, and be prohibited from restaurants, leisure places, social trips, malls, and similar places and public transportation, and provides penalties for violations.

Metro Manila mayors earlier passed a resolution stating that unvaccinated and partially vaccinated individuals must remain in their homes except for essential trips under Alert Level 3 or higher. They will also be banned from indoor and al fresco dining, hotels, country clubs, and similar establishments.

Many business leaders, medical groups, and organizations have been pushing for the restrictions to be implemented nationwide amid the spike in infections and the threat of the Omicron coronavirus variant. (PNA)

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1164809

[GeoffH]

31 minutes ago, Guy F. said:

Has Australia had the ridiculous mask+faceshield requirement? What about plastic shield between driver and passenger on a motorcycle? No leaving the house for seniors and children?

 

We've have compulsory mask mandates (no faceshields).  There are yellow plastic chains dividing the buses into sections to enforce spacing and you have to enter via the rear seat.  Children are allowed out but schools have been mostly closed.  Seniors living at home are not under restriction but any seniors in a managed care facility have been effectively locked into their rooms for the last 2 years.

Also Australia has very wide spread and strongly enforced vaccine mandates, many thousands of people have lost their jobs for refusing to be vaccinnated.  Admission to sporting events, cinemas etc, basically everything except for 'essential retail' is restricted to the double vaccinated.  

Multiple people are being fined many thousands of dollars (here the first offence fine starts at $5000 but it varies from state to state and with the offence committed).  Some have been jailed for 4 to 6 months.  When the government say they will arrest you... here they actually mean it and do it.

So no... it's not 'the same' but Australia is VERY serious about these regulations.

[Gas]

40 minutes ago, Jollygoodfellow said:

Fake news and fake photos of checkpoints. Are you talking metro Manila area? 

I guess you missed the 34 checkpoints set up but some people have all the luck. 

There are checkpoints in every town and city. They have been a permanent feature here in Luzon since March 2020, so I didn’t miss any 🙂. 
I said nobody was checking the vehicles passing through. Yes they might at certain points of the day as they have to take pictures and be seen to following the orders. 
Possibly next week it might become stricter but just now it’s not 🙂
 

Edited January 8, 2022 by Gas