Resident Tourist Visa?

[scott h]

Question for those of you who reside here on extended tourist visas. When you extend your visa is there any wording on it that says that you are a "resident" tourist or any wording that show that you are not just a rich guy who is traveling around the Philippines for an extended period of time.

The reason I am asking is that a bill has passed on the third reading to exclude "non-resident" tourist from paying VAT.  The method of reimbursement has not be decided yet and as normal the devil will be in the details.

[BrettGC]

30 minutes ago, scott h said:

Question for those of you who reside here on extended tourist visas. When you extend your visa is there any wording on it that says that you are a "resident" tourist or any wording that show that you are not just a rich guy who is traveling around the Philippines for an extended period of time.

The reason I am asking is that a bill has passed on the third reading to exclude "non-resident" tourist from paying VAT.  The method of reimbursement has not be decided yet and as normal the devil will be in the details.

ACR-I card just says tourist. Non-resident tourist implies there is such a thing as the classification of resident tourist, which is an oxymoron and doesn't exist.  English is hard. 

Unless they're planning on adding the classification?  That'd be about as much fun as herding cats to police with regards who is what.  Or they could just add it to the ACR-I card I guess?  Which doesn't make a lot of sense considering current evidence suggests they're trying to discourage long-term stays without being on a resident visa of some sort. 

But hey, I'll take it for the remainder of the time I'm on a tourist visa 

[scott h]

36 minutes ago, BrettGC said:

That'd be about as much fun as herding cats

My thoughts exactly. That is what I was wondering. A traditional "tourist" would not be getting an acr card, so I was wondering if they stamped your passport upon the renewal or extension of a tourist visa that would tell a retailer that you were a "temporary" tourist. 

It also does not mention the Balikbayan visa, if that is classified as tourist or not.

[BrettGC]

16 minutes ago, scott h said:

o I was wondering if they stamped your passport upon the renewal or extension of a tourist visa that would tell a retailer that you were a "temporary" tourist. 

Nah, they just check the entry stamp for every extension and give you the receipt and NBI document. 

I was thinking the VAT would be refunded at some point, didn't think of it being deducted at the point of sale.  The latter is a much better proposition, easier for everyone all around. 

No idea on the Balkbayan, never done it. 

[scott h]

6 minutes ago, BrettGC said:

I was thinking the VAT would be refunded at some point, didn't think of it being deducted at the point of sale.

Retailers are pushing for point of sale refund, (like the senior discount). But they are still hashing out the details, be interesting to see the final product.

[earthdome]

Just keep receipts and get refund at airport. Just wait 12 hours for processing minus a 500php processing fee and a 500php express fee.

[Tommy T.]

15 minutes ago, earthdome said:

Just keep receipts and get refund at airport. Just wait 12 hours for processing minus a 500php processing fee and a 500php express fee.

And a bit of long nose tax?

[hk blues]

4 hours ago, scott h said:

Question for those of you who reside here on extended tourist visas. When you extend your visa is there any wording on it that says that you are a "resident" tourist or any wording that show that you are not just a rich guy who is traveling around the Philippines for an extended period of time.

The reason I am asking is that a bill has passed on the third reading to exclude "non-resident" tourist from paying VAT.  The method of reimbursement has not be decided yet and as normal the devil will be in the details.

The wording, or should I say the punctuation, is critical or should be.  There is a difference between "non-resident tourist" and "non-resident" tourist.  One suggests a defined term and the other not.  If it's worded as "non-resident" tourist that would suggest there is technically no such thing.  

[Old55]

Not clearly defined in order to game those who request reimbursement. 

[Mike J]

23 hours ago, scott h said:

Question for those of you who reside here on extended tourist visas. When you extend your visa is there any wording on it that says that you are a "resident" tourist or any wording that show that you are not just a rich guy who is traveling around the Philippines for an extended period of time.

The reason I am asking is that a bill has passed on the third reading to exclude "non-resident" tourist from paying VAT.  The method of reimbursement has not be decided yet and as normal the devil will be in the details.

The bill adds a section to "Section 112 of the National 2 Internal Revenue Code of 1997"  I found the wording of the bill.  There is no mention of resident or non-resident, just the word tourist.  Goods are required to be taken out of the Philippines within 60 days.  In all honesty this sounds like  another "Blue Sky" impossible to administer program. 

Edited September 27 by Mike J