Jake Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 OK LoBo, now that's the spirit! Hopefully what we could learn from you and we are willing to acceptrather than tolerate (with some bitterness), life in the Philippines can still be a peaceful paradise.Warm regards to you and your family -- Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 :thumbs-up-smile: I am just happy you are all learning, no matter what you learn it will make your lives in the Philippines easier by being able to accept what is since we all know it will be a long time before any meaningful changes come about. the word " ACCEPT" is a popular filipino word in most forums and dating sites, conversations , and publications i have read and heard..ACCEPT ME FOR WHO I AMACCEPT US AS WE AREACCEPT ME AND LOVE ME AS I AM etc etc...ACCEPT ME AND BE KIND ,PATIENT, FUNNY , FORGIVING AND GENEROUS..accept that in a nation with a high tuberculin rate that it is normal to walk in our spit in the wet market and not complain..accept that when we throw our trash in your yard that it is normal and understand that we dont care if it makes you angry. accept that we dont care where our trash goes, it is after all just trash..accept that the roads are for pedestrians and not cars and drive accordingly..accept that god gave us oceans and seas and rivers and your yard to dump our wastes in...accept that it will take you 6 months to get a form which is on my desk because i would rather polish my nails and go to lunch.. accept that we are the way we are because we just dont care... we have other things to do and if you complain then you will face the rath of the pinay..well... ill just say that rather than accept any of the amazing eccentricities of the lovely indigenous folks i have not found so acceptable.. just TOLERABLE... TOLERABLE IS MAYBE A BETTER WORDTHE PRECEDING IS MY OWN EXPERIENCE AND IN NO WAY MEANT TO INCLUDE EACH AND EVERY CITIZEN OF THE RP..... :)THIS IS MY SHORT LIST.. THANKYOU FOR YOUR TIME... Is there any thing you like about the Philippines or its people? Why do you live there if life's so bad? Oh come on Tom....his posts are a breath of fresh air (pun intended).If you had no interest in pinays, wife/gf whatever...would you like ANYTHING about this place?The charm? Here is a quick story...quick cause it's 5 AM and my dog wants to walk. My next door neighbor to the left is a "rich" filipino. She has two helpers and it's just her (i assume her man is a OFW). The new SUV plus scrum van, the two poodle type dogs the helpers groom, perfect house...she NEVER socializes with anybody in the hood. Even I make an attempt to socialize. Anyway, this older bitch has nothing better to do then tell her helpers to tell my helper the "things" we are doing that she does not like. She can't even approach me herself...nope, too good for that. Guess what her last complaint was? My dog pees on the DIRT road in front of the house when I take him for his walk...normal as he holds it in all night, yet...her car tires get the pee on them and it smells. She asked that we "let" the dog pee elsewhere...hahaha! HER CAR TIRES...in the land of filth and stray dogs, she is complaining my dog does the right thing and pees on the dirt....and she drives on it.Charming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 i have learned that not all people with bad past histories and bad reputations are bad people when you make it a point to get to know them..i have learned that despite some tolerable short comings on my part as well as others that life is what you make it... i have learned that the la verdes passage has no equal literally and figuratively speaking and is the worlds most diverse marine ecosystem on the planet, soon to be a sanctuary.. half of this is fact and half of it is faith...i have learned that the filipinos are a fiercely spiritual people and whatever their beliefs are they have an undying faith that tomorrow is coming and will be better than today.. they insure this with their many ceremonial beliefs and they trust their powers..i have learned that it doesnt take a full shop of expensive tools to change a large diesel motor and in fact one man can do it with a chain and a pole and no jacks or hoists.. i have learned that situations that arise needing arbitration will be attended to in a most timely fashion and that family members who are needed to attend will travel days to be there and the problems will be solved before they leave..i have learned that the family core is still existent , tho some feel the new generation is growing away from it and they feel part of their culture is dying with it.. as an american i always wished i had a close family , but as an american i know it doesnt exist the same way it does in the filipins.. i have learned that the local service stations are happy to let me do my own car repairs and use their facility for free..i have learned that the conspicuous absence of police cruisers on every block or for that matter anywhere is a blessed and relieving sight.. i have learned that no matter how little someone has you will be invited to share it.. i have learned that often times only one small fish will be mixed with rice so that 10 people can have a taste of it..i have learned that for the price of only a liter of gas i can be escorted for the entire day on a boat cruise in any direction i chose..i have learned that if i help pull in the net i get a fair share of the catch..ive learned that you can eat ray and in fact most of the scallops you eat in restos is stamped from the ray wing.. the same thing is done with the skate in america.. i have learned that the people i meet will eat my cooking and tell me if it is really good..ive learned that its ok if i tell them i dont like what they serve me... :thumbs-up-smile: but i dont..i have learned that despite the history of oppression and corruption that the peoples smiles are real and they are only trying to live as good as they can like everyone else in the world.. ive learned not to go to anymore gov agencies unless it is a command performance..ive learned that the filipno is independent and the most resourceful people i have known.. i have learned that the pizza at shakeys is the real thing and i love their coffee..i have learned that you are not suppose to tip in restos or other places here for services.. i dont accept that..i have learned that i made the right decision coming to live in the RP.. the more i remember , the more ill share.. i learned not to stand under the coconut tree too long.. Great post! :AddEmoticons04230:Although, all hate my cooking, cause I don't use sugar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softail Posted June 1, 2010 Posted June 1, 2010 I am just happy you are all learning, no matter what you learn it will make your lives in the Philippines easier by being able to accept what is since we all know it will be a long time before any meaningful changes come about. the word " ACCEPT" is a popular filipino word in most forums and dating sites, conversations , and publications i have read and heard..ACCEPT ME FOR WHO I AMACCEPT US AS WE AREACCEPT ME AND LOVE ME AS I AM etc etc...ACCEPT ME AND BE KIND ,PATIENT, FUNNY , FORGIVING AND GENEROUS..accept that in a nation with a high tuberculin rate that it is normal to walk in our spit in the wet market and not complain..accept that when we throw our trash in your yard that it is normal and understand that we dont care if it makes you angry. accept that we dont care where our trash goes, it is after all just trash..accept that the roads are for pedestrians and not cars and drive accordingly..accept that god gave us oceans and seas and rivers and your yard to dump our wastes in...accept that it will take you 6 months to get a form which is on my desk because i would rather polish my nails and go to lunch.. accept that we are the way we are because we just dont care... we have other things to do and if you complain then you will face the rath of the pinay..well... ill just say that rather than accept any of the amazing eccentricities of the lovely indigenous folks i have not found so acceptable.. just TOLERABLE... TOLERABLE IS MAYBE A BETTER WORDTHE PRECEDING IS MY OWN EXPERIENCE AND IN NO WAY MEANT TO INCLUDE EACH AND EVERY CITIZEN OF THE RP..... THIS IS MY SHORT LIST.. THANKYOU FOR YOUR TIME... Perhaps a change would be good for you. I just read an article about popular countries to retire to. Perhaps Ecuador or Panama would suit your lifestyle better, lots of expats living there and loving it. I can’t imagine living in a country that I hated. Different strokes for different folks.Doug and Sally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love2winalot Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 Hiya: There are lots of things here that we do not like. Just like there are lots of things back in our country of origin that we do not like. The difference being, that in your home country, you have more choices to get involved to try to change things. Everything from orginizing a neighborhood watch to running for political office. When you move to another country, this is one of the things you are giving up. AND YOU KNOW IT. Almost None of us were really surprised when we actually moved here. Most of us had visited here, or had short term stays, before actually moving. If someone came with the mindset of, "I will go there, and made a difference", then good for you for trying. We all hope you succeed. But, the odds are you won't. You had a much better chance of making a difference back in your home country than you do here.So..........What to do? So many things just plain suck. Just like so many things sucked back home...............................The list is almost the same lenth, just the topics are different.imhop, I am here NOT because it Sucks less than Las Vegas, I am here because the good things are Better than in Las Vegas. Yes, it is an adjustment, and also an Attitude Adjustment, and not everyone can make the Adjustment. Living in a different country is not just about having the money to do so, it is more about the quality of life you expect to have, and then having or not having the ability to make some adjustments to that quality of life.Every country in the world has the motto of, "If you don't like it here, then leave". This is what a lot of us did when we left our home country. If it is worse here, then you have to either become a citizin, and get involved in politics to change things, or move back home, or find another country that Sucks at an acceptable level.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted June 2, 2010 Author Posted June 2, 2010 Hiya: There are lots of things here that we do not like. Just like there are lots of things back in our country of origin that we do not like. The difference being, that in your home country, you have more choices to get involved to try to change things. Everything from orginizing a neighborhood watch to running for political office. When you move to another country, this is one of the things you are giving up. AND YOU KNOW IT. Almost None of us were really surprised when we actually moved here. Most of us had visited here, or had short term stays, before actually moving. If someone came with the mindset of, "I will go there, and made a difference", then good for you for trying. We all hope you succeed. But, the odds are you won't. You had a much better chance of making a difference back in your home country than you do here.So..........What to do? So many things just plain suck. Just like so many things sucked back home...............................The list is almost the same lenth, just the topics are different.imhop, I am here NOT because it Sucks less than Las Vegas, I am here because the good things are Better than in Las Vegas. Yes, it is an adjustment, and also an Attitude Adjustment, and not everyone can make the Adjustment. Living in a different country is not just about having the money to do so, it is more about the quality of life you expect to have, and then having or not having the ability to make some adjustments to that quality of life.Every country in the world has the motto of, "If you don't like it here, then leave". This is what a lot of us did when we left our home country. If it is worse here, then you have to either become a citizin, and get involved in politics to change things, or move back home, or find another country that Sucks at an acceptable level.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art2ro Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 (edited) WTF is this all about lately? "The Malcontent Foreigner Section"? Why does everything have to be analyzed, diced and sliced to described everything what's bad about the Philippines that a visitor has to accept or tolerate? It's just a plain and simple rule while living in any country weather you like or not, "different strokes for different folks", "life in the Philippines is what you make it to be" and "if you don't like it here, well, you can just leave anytime"! Edited June 2, 2010 by Pinoy Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 (edited) The charm? Here is a quick story...quick cause it's 5 AM and my dog wants to walk. My next door neighbor to the left is a "rich" filipino. She has two helpers and it's just her (i assume her man is a OFW). The new SUV plus scrum van, the two poodle type dogs the helpers groom, perfect house...she NEVER socializes with anybody in the hood. Even I make an attempt to socialize. Anyway, this older bitch has nothing better to do then tell her helpers to tell my helper the "things" we are doing that she does not like. She can't even approach me herself...nope, too good for that. Guess what her last complaint was? My dog pees on the DIRT road in front of the house when I take him for his walk...normal as he holds it in all night, yet...her car tires get the pee on them and it smells. She asked that we "let" the dog pee elsewhere...hahaha! HER CAR TIRES...in the land of filth and stray dogs, she is complaining my dog does the right thing and pees on the dirt....and she drives on it.Charming. Wait a minute Inspector! Your above statement describing the rich Filipina next door made myheart jump. If she looks like one of her Aristocratic poodles, then it's gotta be my ex wife. Inthat case -- for a bottle of Tantuay, I would gadly pinch a loaf on her shoes! Avoid her, she isground zero.Relieved at last -- Jake Edited June 2, 2010 by Boss Man fixed quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobo Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 (edited) what i have learned recently.. http://www.theamateu...om/epoisons.htma very popular plant that i have many of and no doubt you have also or have seen... the euphrobia plant.. google has a lot of info on this including filipins euphrobia .. with over 2000 varieties i thought it was worth mentioning.. im an avid gardener and didnt know that the plants i was being stuck by were so deadly.. sorry if that disappoints anyone..:)also for anyone who has a poison ivy allergy or other plant allergies, the indian mangoes sap is very toxic and the blisters from it are worse than poison ivy.. anyone who has had an outbreak of itching followed by these blisters knows the extreme discomfort it causes and once it is on you it seems to be also in you, since it spreads.. the cure i found from an old wise doctor is steroidal.. betamethisone tablets combined with betamethisone ointment plus cefalexin will bring it under control in about 3 days and it is gone in about a week..the first doctor i saw told me to see a dermo and didnt even bother to look at it, so this will save you a trip to the dermo and also maybe help you educate an otherwise dis-interested doctor .. you will be scarred where you have scratched it and the sore from the scratch will be about a month healing.. it is that toxic to those who are allergic..it is of course aggravated by the constant heat and humidity and can likely come back even if you have no further contact with the mangoes.. Edited June 2, 2010 by Mr. Lee repair link within post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 2, 2010 Posted June 2, 2010 what i have learned recently..http://www.theamateursdigest.com/epoisons.htma very popular plant that i have many of and no doubt you have also or have seen... the euphrobia plant.. google has a lot of info on this including filipins euphrobia .. with over 2000 varieties i thought it was worth mentioning.. im an avid gardener and didnt know that the plants i was being stuck by were so deadly.. sorry if that disappoints anyone..:)also for anyone who has a poison ivy allergy or other plant allergies, the indian mangoes sap is very toxic and the blisters from it are worse than poison ivy.. anyone who has had an outbreak of itching followed by these blisters knows the extreme discomfort it causes and once it is on you it seems to be also in you, since it spreads.. the cure i found from an old wise doctor is steroidal.. betamethisone tablets combined with betamethisone ointment plus cefalexin will bring it under control in about 3 days and it is gone in about a week..the first doctor i saw told me to see a dermo and didnt even bother to look at it, so this will save you a trip to the dermo and also maybe help you educate an otherwise dis-interested doctor .. you will be scarred where you have scratched it and the sore from the scratch will be about a month healing.. it is that toxic to those who are allergic..it is of course aggravated by the constant heat and humidity and can likely come back even if you have no further contact with the mangoes.. Hello LoBo,Thanks for the education of euphrobia plants in the Philippines. In spite of its toxiclatex substance, there seems to be an export market of these ornamental plants.I wish I could start a garden someday but would probably get arrested for my plantselection he, he.Respectfully -- Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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