Americano Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 Just one day before a Air-force Fighter Jet was shot down in that area which is a War Zone. Who would fly through the same area the next day and not expect to be shot down? By the way, the airliner was shot down, it didn't crash, there's a big difference. It exploded in air and is spread over a very big area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me bubba Posted July 19, 2014 Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) They are reporting in Australia that MH17 took that flight path to save money on fuel. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/07/18/world/europe/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh17-q-a.html here is the reason,,,,, Q. Why was Flight 17 flying over Ukraine? Flight 17 was flying on an Active airway that had been open and in use at higher altitudes throughout the conflict in Ukraine. efore the crash, Russia closed part of the airway that the plane would have followed if it had continued into Russian airspace. But the closing applied only to planes traveling under 32,000 feet; the Malaysia flight was above that level. Q. Were other airlines flying over Ukraine? Malaysia Airlines was not alone in flying over eastern Ukraine. A survey of flights to Asia from Europe in the last week found that other airlines, including Lufthansa, Thai Airways and KLM, were also flying over the region. ome, however, like Air France and British Airways, appeared to have been avoiding the area even before the crash. Amsterdam July 17 Paris Ukraine Ukraine Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 to Kuala Lumpur Air France Flight 166 to Bangkok Amsterdam London Ukraine Ukraine British Airways Flight 9 to Bangkok KLM Flight 809 to Kuala Lumpur Paris Ukraine Ukraine Frankfurt Lufthansa Flight 772 to Bangkok Thai Airways Flight 931 to Bangkok Source: Flight path data from flightradar24.com Q. Was any of the airspace over eastern Ukraine closed? On July 1, the airspace over eastern Ukraine was closed at altitudes up to 26,000 feet. The restrictions were raised to 32,000 feet this week after a Ukrainian military cargo plane was shot down by a missile while flying above 20,000 feet. Until then, the only surface-to-air missiles used had been smaller, shoulder-fired types, which can typically hit targets up to about 12,000 feet. Flight control zone boundaries Airways Path of Flight 17 The plane was on Airway L980, which had remained open above 32,000 feet during the conflict in Ukraine. Before Flight 17 took off, Russia closed more than a dozen airways at various altitudes. Crash site Donetsk UKRAINE Rostov The route that Flight 17 would have followed was only open above 32,000 feet. Zaporizhzhya Mariupol Dnipropetrovsk Kiev Odessa Simferopol Sea of Azov RUSSIA Odessa Restricted flight areas before Thursday’s crash Black Sea crimea By the Federal Aviation Administration 40 MILES By Eurocontrol Sevastapol Q. Why was the airspace restricted but not closed completely? It is unclear why the airspace was left open. Edited July 19, 2014 by Pittman apartments Sgn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 19, 2014 Posted July 19, 2014 They are reporting in Australia that MH17 took that flight path to save money on fuel. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/07/18/world/europe/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh17-q-a.html here is the reason,,,,, Hmm......interesting article about that critical airspace. My question is -- who was monitoring or controlling that airspace? Do neighboring flight controllers of international flights communicate inbound and outbound flights into their zone? Are some of the controllers military with banks of missile batteries at their disposal? Who is going to tell the truth? Even if it was an honest mistake of misidentification (military vs commercial). Speaking of mistakes: USS Vincennes shooting down an Iranian Airbus in the Persian Gulf in 1988. We can have all sophisticated equipment but we humans still make mistakes, including the pilots themselves. May the families of all the innocent victims lost, find more strength to make their pain go away.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methersgate Posted July 19, 2014 Posted July 19, 2014 The VINCENNES case was an interesting combination of a very "Gung-Ho" C/O and a weapons officer whose knowledge of IT was such that he put Post-It notes on his computer screen, in charge of a very powerful weapon (an early AEGIS cruiser).I suspect this case may prove to be somewhat similar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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