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Some may not view this as a big change, as there have been nut job Muslims in the south for a while.

 

But ISIS indicating the they have a training camp there, is a change to me.

 

 

Not good for us white expats.

 

Maybe Vietnam will be good? ha

 

 

 

 

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Honestly,

I don't know if I can trust the Philippine military/governments numbers. They have claimed to kill important terrorists before, only with that same terrorist popping up on a new video months later:)

 

If they really cared about getting rid of the nutjob muslims down there, they would send more troops and overwhelm them.

 

But I hope they do succeed. 

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I rode the length of Zamboanga Del Sur (British, Canadian, Australian and US Governments "advise against all travel") on the roof of a jeepney with two of K's cousins last January and I am here to tell the tale. I got a few "Hi, Joe"s but no bullets. 

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An easy way to tackle ISIS would be by using the taxman they seem to be able to find everyone.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3368646/ISIS-unveil-Philippines-new-breeding-ground-jihadis-latest-propaganda-video-featuring-secret-Filipino-jungle-training-camp.html

 

 

Some may not view this as a big change, as there have been nut job Muslims in the south for a while.

 

But ISIS indicating the they have a training camp there, is a change to me.

 

 

Not good for us white expats.

 

Maybe Vietnam will be good? ha

 

 

And there's always a but !!1

 

 

Palace: No ISIS training camps in the Philippines

 

MANILA, Philippines - Malacañang on Tuesday assured that the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) has not set up a training camp in the Philippines.

 
"What ISIS-linked personalities have done is to try to link-up with local jihadist/terrorist groups," Communications Secretary Herminio Coloma Jr. said.
 
Mail Online earlier reported that the international terrorist group has started its own camp in the Philippines.
 
The ISIS released a video showing their new recruits in the Philippines while working on their fitness and agility.
 
"Some of these ISIS-linked personalities, who are really few in number, have also sought refuge in the base areas of these local terrorist groups," Coloma added.
 
Mail Online reported that the new video suggests that the ISIS sees the Philippines as a potential site for expanding new bases.
 
Last month, the Palace stressed that there is no credible threat from the terrorist group despite reports that it has gained sympathizers in Mindanao.
 
Coloma earlier said that there are continuing efforts to confirm if there is a link of the jihadist group with other threat elements within and outside the country.
 
"Validation of information gathered thus far has produced no basis to confirm such reports. The intelligence community continues to monitor threats to ensure proper response by the security forces," Coloma said.
 
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I have a few middle class Muslim Filipino friends. Their mindset is definitely different to that of Christian Filipinos, and not only in the matter of their non-consumption of lechon baboy and San Miguel.

 

Generally, they all dislike being "ruled from Manila"; they would prefer either autonomy within a Federal system or to join Malaysia. They are notably cynical about the news sources that we Caucasians take for granted and they are as likely to believe the Russian RT news agency as they are to believe CNN or the BBC, to say nothing of wild and wacky Internet "news sources". These are peaceful well educated doctors, engineers, accountants, and suchlike and very far removed from supporting terrorists, but we have to recognise that they are very different.

 

Muslim Filipinos are not all the same; there are three main groups:

 

The Tausug. The "people of the current" - the original citizens of the Sultanate of Sulu.  Live mostly around Zamboanga and in the islands of the Sulu Sea.  Nur Misuari of the MNLF  is a Tausug but so, more surprisingly, is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Lourdes Sereno, though her family are Christian converts (she is an evangelical)

 

The Maguindanons - "people of the plains"  - the original citizens of the Sultanate of Buayan (now General Santos City) Live, of course, mainly in Maguindanao. Murad Ibrahim of the MILF is a Maguindanon.

 

The Sama - Badjao (the "sea gypsies" - these unfortunate people have seen their way of life wrecked but are despised by other Muslims as not being "properly Muslim" and by everyone else in the Philippines because "they are not rice farmers so they don't work hard". You are most likely to come across a Badjao begging, because they really are sea people, born in boats and living all their lives in boats unless they are forced ashore by some personal or tribal disaster.

 

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You will notice that the Tausug (who, as a people, extend into Malaysia and Indonesia) align with the MNLF, and the Maguindanons align with the MILF.

 

The MNLF was started after the Jabidah Massacre in 1968 - Marcos had a secret plan to invade Sabah, claimed by the Philippines as the successor state to the Sultanate of Sulu by President Macapagal, using Tausug troops, who were secretly trained for this on Corregidor but who mutinied when they found that they had been recruited not, as they had hoped, as the first regular Muslim troops in the AFP but to attack their fellow-Tausugs in Sabah - they were shot out of hand but one man survived and was picked up by a local fishing boat so the story got out. Not a good day's work by Marcos. The entire Muslim insurrection dates from that event..

 

... and the MILF separated from the MNLF in 1976 because they disagreed with the Tripoli peace agreement between the Marcos Government and the MNLF... the MILF subsequently gave rise to the Abu Sayyaf...

 

in 2014 the Abu Sayyaf swore allegiance to ISIL...  I think the "training camp" in the video is actually Abu Sayyaf, as the Government indicate in JGF's post no.6.     

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3368646/ISIS-unveil-Philippines-new-breeding-ground-jihadis-latest-propaganda-video-featuring-secret-Filipino-jungle-training-camp.html

 

 

Some may not view this as a big change, as there have been nut job Muslims in the south for a while.

 

But ISIS indicating the they have a training camp there, is a change to me.

 

 

Not good for us white expats.

 

Maybe Vietnam will be good? ha

 

 

And there's always a but !!1

 

 

Palace: No ISIS training camps in the Philippines

 

MANILA, Philippines - Malacañang on Tuesday assured that the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) has not set up a training camp in the Philippines.

 
"What ISIS-linked personalities have done is to try to link-up with local jihadist/terrorist groups," Communications Secretary Herminio Coloma Jr. said.
 
Mail Online earlier reported that the international terrorist group has started its own camp in the Philippines.
 
The ISIS released a video showing their new recruits in the Philippines while working on their fitness and agility.
 
"Some of these ISIS-linked personalities, who are really few in number, have also sought refuge in the base areas of these local terrorist groups," Coloma added.
 
Mail Online reported that the new video suggests that the ISIS sees the Philippines as a potential site for expanding new bases.
 
Last month, the Palace stressed that there is no credible threat from the terrorist group despite reports that it has gained sympathizers in Mindanao.
 
Coloma earlier said that there are continuing efforts to confirm if there is a link of the jihadist group with other threat elements within and outside the country.
 
"Validation of information gathered thus far has produced no basis to confirm such reports. The intelligence community continues to monitor threats to ensure proper response by the security forces," Coloma said.
 

 

 

So now my choice is to believe the corrupt Philippine government, or ISIS.  Hmmm

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So now my choice is to believe the corrupt Philippine government, or ISIS.  Hmmm

 

Who would you believe?

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The more you stir this pot the more agitated and focused the issues becomes. There is no reason for this conversation on this forum. It's bad policy to compare one part of the world with another. Especially when you are living in peace. If and when there is a incident involving a terr.....group that identifies itself with ........, then and only then should we give them a second thought. You can't force a Zebra to be a Horse. They may have similarities but they are governed by different laws in nature. So it is with us humans.

We have many things in common, the least of which is DNA. But the part of us that governs our soul and spirit may have a great divide.

People believe what they believe and very few ever change their minds. We may speak and we may socialize to a degree, but the part of us that is our soul will always be divided. You can beat a rug to get the dust out, but if you beat too long the threads start to unravel. No reason to clean house when everyone is happy the way things are. You don't want to creat problems where there are none. If you don't actually live here, then you really should refrain from talking of the world others have left behind. Philippines has its hands full with those wanting to take its fishing waters, no need to amplify, magnify or draw attention to other possible problems.

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