Gary D Posted May 8, 2017 Posted May 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jollygoodfellow said: To me it's an introduced culture to the Philippines by countries that tip. Almost every night I sit in that BBQ place having a few beers and watching what goes on and most Filippino take all their change so why do some westerns think they are still in their country and feel it's mandatory to tip? In the US I recall reading a waiter having a very low wage of about $10 an hour and rely on tips for a decent income. In Australia that waiter would be getting maybe $25 an hour (depending on age) so it's not tip based. Here I've seen people leave a tip like as much as the waiter would normally make in a day but I doubt they would give a day's wage to a waiter in their own country. All has to be put in perspective, Cebu minimum waiter wage is P375 a day so thats the going rate. The other day I seen an ad wanting 20 labours for flood control work with a P230 a day wage so in comparison the waiter here is not doing to bad. The same conversation came up with myself, a Brit and a canadian just last week. The question I put to the Canadian is , do you tip over the road in Mc Donalds? the answer was no so I asked why? no reply but that girl is waiting on you, serving you so where is the difference? What about in the department store and the sales girl sells you a suitcase, she will have a low wage and she has shown you 20 cases and helped you select then took it to the cashier but at the end of the day she will go home with whatever the going rate is. just to add, do people tip out in the provinces ? Us Brits are not natural tippers, we have taught the Aussis well. The only place I will tip in the UK is a restaraunt but only if no service charge. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted May 8, 2017 Posted May 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Gary D said: The only place I will tip in the UK is a restaraunt but only if no service charge. I'm a displace Brit so things may have changed but I remember hearing my Mum and Dad complaining about having to tip the dustman or he would not pick up the trash. And having to tip the gas meter reader to make sure he didn't cut the gas off. It seems like there was a tipping culture back then, but again, I am Canadian now and its got real bad with restaurants and cabbies but most other trades don't get tipped. Oh yeah, tour bus drivers and their tour guides often get a tip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Peterson Posted May 8, 2017 Posted May 8, 2017 49 minutes ago, Dave Hounddriver said: Oh yeah, tour bus drivers and their tour guides often get a tip. Only cos you had a Gun OK, OK, I know the drill. Mutter, Mutter, mutter bin here a long time and they still don't accept/understand me. Hmmm well maybe a few 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary D Posted May 8, 2017 Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dave Hounddriver said: I'm a displace Brit so things may have changed but I remember hearing my Mum and Dad complaining about having to tip the dustman or he would not pick up the trash. And having to tip the gas meter reader to make sure he didn't cut the gas off. It seems like there was a tipping culture back then, but again, I am Canadian now and its got real bad with restaurants and cabbies but most other trades don't get tipped. Oh yeah, tour bus drivers and their tour guides often get a tip. Dustmen used to get tips at Chrismas when they collected the bin from your backdoor. Now a days we have to push the bin to the curb so when there are 4-5 bins altogether they don't know whose it is. Meter reading is now either done remote or by the user submitting the readings online, and do they have coach trips anymore. Edited May 8, 2017 by Gary D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post davewe Posted May 8, 2017 Popular Post Posted May 8, 2017 Overtipping is a big issue as far as I am concerned. It isn't viewed as just generosity in PI and it's hard to understand from am American viewpoint, since a generous tip might be just what we happened to have in our pocket. A story: my buddy was at a resto with his then fiance (now married) in Cebu. Fished in his pocket and accidentally tipped the waitress a 1k note. He realized his mistake but hey it's only $20 he thought. He was a hero! He entered the restaurant the next night and the staff descended on him like he was Manny P. He got the best service he'd ever received in the Philippines and of course at the end once again tipped 1k. A few days later they came into the same restaurant for lunch. The place was packed. They were hosting some kind of Philippines Governors Conference. The owner of the restaurant, recognizing the rich kano, rushed up to my friend and told him he'd be much more comfortable in the back and took him to a private room. Of course all of this impressed his fiancé to no end. Unfortunately, IMO my friend did not learn the correct lesson. Now whenever he goes to PI he tips wildly, thinking it gives him better service. While it probably does, the image of the rich kano, the gossip that he leaves in his wake, does not benefit Filipinos nor does it benefit the rest of us "rich kanos." The point I am laboring to make is that the 1k tip, which to my friend was little more than he would have tipped normally in the US, was for a Filipina waitress a huge piece of happiness - it made her week, maybe her month successful. It's understandable why the OP's masseuse might have viewed his generosity as personal help or support, especially since they clearly knew each other well enough that he knew her personal situation. So, tip appropriately for the culture. And make sure you look carefully at the note you're handing out. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonjack2847 Posted May 8, 2017 Posted May 8, 2017 15 hours ago, Jollygoodfellow said: To me it's an introduced culture to the Philippines by countries that tip. Almost every night I sit in that BBQ place having a few beers and watching what goes on and most Filippino take all their change so why do some westerns think they are still in their country and feel it's mandatory to tip? In the US I recall reading a waiter having a very low wage of about $10 an hour and rely on tips for a decent income. In Australia that waiter would be getting maybe $25 an hour (depending on age) so it's not tip based. Here I've seen people leave a tip like as much as the waiter would normally make in a day but I doubt they would give a day's wage to a waiter in their own country. All has to be put in perspective, Cebu minimum waiter wage is P375 a day so thats the going rate. The other day I seen an ad wanting 20 labours for flood control work with a P230 a day wage so in comparison the waiter here is not doing to bad. The same conversation came up with myself, a Brit and a canadian just last week. The question I put to the Canadian is , do you tip over the road in Mc Donalds? the answer was no so I asked why? no reply but that girl is waiting on you, serving you so where is the difference? What about in the department store and the sales girl sells you a suitcase, she will have a low wage and she has shown you 20 cases and helped you select then took it to the cashier but at the end of the day she will go home with whatever the going rate is. just to add, do people tip out in the provinces ? In Dalaguete it was expected in foreign owned bars/restaurants but not by local bars.The girls in the foreigner bars were paid more than the girls in local bars. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sonjack2847 Posted May 9, 2017 Popular Post Posted May 9, 2017 10 hours ago, davewe said: Overtipping is a big issue as far as I am concerned. It isn't viewed as just generosity in PI and it's hard to understand from am American viewpoint, since a generous tip might be just what we happened to have in our pocket. A story: my buddy was at a resto with his then fiance (now married) in Cebu. Fished in his pocket and accidentally tipped the waitress a 1k note. He realized his mistake but hey it's only $20 he thought. He was a hero! He entered the restaurant the next night and the staff descended on him like he was Manny P. He got the best service he'd ever received in the Philippines and of course at the end once again tipped 1k. A few days later they came into the same restaurant for lunch. The place was packed. They were hosting some kind of Philippines Governors Conference. The owner of the restaurant, recognizing the rich kano, rushed up to my friend and told him he'd be much more comfortable in the back and took him to a private room. Of course all of this impressed his fiancé to no end. Unfortunately, IMO my friend did not learn the correct lesson. Now whenever he goes to PI he tips wildly, thinking it gives him better service. While it probably does, the image of the rich kano, the gossip that he leaves in his wake, does not benefit Filipinos nor does it benefit the rest of us "rich kanos." The point I am laboring to make is that the 1k tip, which to my friend was little more than he would have tipped normally in the US, was for a Filipina waitress a huge piece of happiness - it made her week, maybe her month successful. It's understandable why the OP's masseuse might have viewed his generosity as personal help or support, especially since they clearly knew each other well enough that he knew her personal situation. So, tip appropriately for the culture. And make sure you look carefully at the note you're handing out. There was an Aussie in Dalaguete who was throwing around 500p notes as tips.Myself and a Dutch guy told him to be careful.He told us to FO it was his money he earned it and would spend it how he saw fit.So we shut our mouths as he was correct.He then bought 2 sets of local men a liter or red horse.1 set finished thanked him for the beer and left.The other set demanded another bottle and got quite angry when he said no.They left and he turned to us and said I never thought would happen.The moral of the story is it doesn`t matter how good it makes you feel it can have dire consequences,don`t make yourself a target by flashing cash.Even in your own country you should not flash cash you never know who is watching. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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