Jollygoodfellow Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 Love it, maybe they were one or the other or all of the below. Investigators said they have yet to establish whether detained Australians Barry Burston, 69, and Raymond Anderson, 57, and Michael Watt, 59, from New Zealand, owned, operated or were customers at the suspected brothel. Two Australians and a New Zealander have been arrested after a raid on a suspected brothel as the Philippines stepped up a campaign against trafficking of women and children for sex, police say.Investigators said they have yet to establish whether detained Australians Barry Burston, 69, and Raymond Anderson, 57, and Michael Watt, 59, from New Zealand, owned, operated or were customers at the suspected brothel.Police raided the night club in the northern city of Angeles late on Thursday and found 42 alleged sex workers, including a 17-year-old girl that had earlier been reported missing by an aunt, chief investigator Samuel Pagdilao said on Friday.More here.. http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/philippines-brothel-raid-aussies-arrested-20110520-1ewjt.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Carl Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) Love it, maybe they were one or the other or all of the below.Investigators said they have yet to establish whether detained Australians Barry Burston, 69, and Raymond Anderson, 57, and Michael Watt, 59, from New Zealand, owned, operated or were customers at the suspected brothel. Two Australians and a New Zealander have been arrested after a raid on a suspected brothel as the Philippines stepped up a campaign against trafficking of women and children for sex, police say.Investigators said they have yet to establish whether detained Australians Barry Burston, 69, and Raymond Anderson, 57, and Michael Watt, 59, from New Zealand, owned, operated or were customers at the suspected brothel.Police raided the night club in the northern city of Angeles late on Thursday and found 42 alleged sex workers, including a 17-year-old girl that had earlier been reported missing by an aunt, chief investigator Samuel Pagdilao said on Friday. More here.. http://news.smh.com....0520-1ewjt.html Interesting, but most of all because there is no mention of the other 200+ clubs on Fields Ave. that do exactly the same thing. Sounds like someone was not paying the traditional "local police tax". :as-if:Papa Carl Edited May 20, 2011 by Kuya Lee Move post to below last [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lee Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 Love it, maybe they were one or the other or all of the below.Investigators said they have yet to establish whether detained Australians Barry Burston, 69, and Raymond Anderson, 57, and Michael Watt, 59, from New Zealand, owned, operated or were customers at the suspected brothel. Two Australians and a New Zealander have been arrested after a raid on a suspected brothel as the Philippines stepped up a campaign against trafficking of women and children for sex, police say.Investigators said they have yet to establish whether detained Australians Barry Burston, 69, and Raymond Anderson, 57, and Michael Watt, 59, from New Zealand, owned, operated or were customers at the suspected brothel.Police raided the night club in the northern city of Angeles late on Thursday and found 42 alleged sex workers, including a 17-year-old girl that had earlier been reported missing by an aunt, chief investigator Samuel Pagdilao said on Friday. More here.. http://news.smh.com....0520-1ewjt.html And THIS STORY is why Philippines campaign against 'trafficking' supportedMANILA, Philippines — Pleased with the Aquino administration's efforts to combat human trafficking in the country, United States Ambassador Harry K. Thomas Jr. has vowed continued support to the Philippine government's fight against human trafficking and illegal recruitment.Ambassador Thomas made the commitment during the exit call of US Embassy Second Secretary Doreen Bailey at the Office of Vice President Jejomar C. Binay recently.He commended the Inter-Agency Council Against Trafficking (IACAT), of which Binay is chairman emeritus.Thomas said he is pleased with the government's efforts to combat human trafficking, adding that he is willing to continue working with the Philippine government to keep Filipinos safe from the menace.Binay, who is the also Presidential Adviser on Overseas Filipino Workers’ (OFW) Concerns, welcomed the offer as he thanked Thomas for commending the Philippine government for its gains in addressing the problems of human trafficking and illegal recruitment.Within 10 months of the Aquino administration, the Philippine government was able to secure 22 convictions of human traffickers, including two Swedes who were sentenced to life imprisonment for running a cybersex den in Kauswagan, Lanao del Norte in Mindanao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollygoodfellow Posted May 20, 2011 Author Posted May 20, 2011 Love it, maybe they were one or the other or all of the below.Investigators said they have yet to establish whether detained Australians Barry Burston, 69, and Raymond Anderson, 57, and Michael Watt, 59, from New Zealand, owned, operated or were customers at the suspected brothel. Two Australians and a New Zealander have been arrested after a raid on a suspected brothel as the Philippines stepped up a campaign against trafficking of women and children for sex, police say.Investigators said they have yet to establish whether detained Australians Barry Burston, 69, and Raymond Anderson, 57, and Michael Watt, 59, from New Zealand, owned, operated or were customers at the suspected brothel.Police raided the night club in the northern city of Angeles late on Thursday and found 42 alleged sex workers, including a 17-year-old girl that had earlier been reported missing by an aunt, chief investigator Samuel Pagdilao said on Friday. More here.. http://news.smh.com....0520-1ewjt.html And THIS STORY is why Philippines campaign against 'trafficking' supportedMANILA, Philippines — Pleased with the Aquino administration's efforts to combat human trafficking in the country, United States Ambassador Harry K. Thomas Jr. has vowed continued support to the Philippine government's fight against human trafficking and illegal recruitment.Ambassador Thomas made the commitment during the exit call of US Embassy Second Secretary Doreen Bailey at the Office of Vice President Jejomar C. Binay recently.He commended the Inter-Agency Council Against Trafficking (IACAT), of which Binay is chairman emeritus.Thomas said he is pleased with the government's efforts to combat human trafficking, adding that he is willing to continue working with the Philippine government to keep Filipinos safe from the menace.Binay, who is the also Presidential Adviser on Overseas Filipino Workers’ (OFW) Concerns, welcomed the offer as he thanked Thomas for commending the Philippine government for its gains in addressing the problems of human trafficking and illegal recruitment.Within 10 months of the Aquino administration, the Philippine government was able to secure 22 convictions of human traffickers, including two Swedes who were sentenced to life imprisonment for running a cybersex den in Kauswagan, Lanao del Norte in Mindanao. I think most westerners will have trouble dealing with the term "TRAFFICKING" as it is used for almost anything in the Philippines,I know I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lee Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 The key words seem to be sexual exploitation, which in the Interpol definition says lured with the promises of decent employment, and while they refer to taking people out of the country, in the Philippines they just lure them out of the provinces, or have their other workers do it for them with a reward for each they bring into the business. Naive women get sucked into a trap of starting out just talking to customers and having them buy them drinks, which loosens them up, since they have never drank before, and then because they have no money to return home, and their coworkers are doing it, then it must be OK for them to do as well. So for those who choose the life, so be it, but for those who end up lured with the promise of easy money, that is wrong IMHO. So while we may not like the terms used, it is not out country to tell them how to use their version of the English language. Human trafficking is the illegal trade in human beings for the purposes of reproductive slavery, commercial sexual exploitation, forced labor, or a modern-day form of slavery. Interpol definition his prevalent form of trafficking affects every region in the world, either as a source, transit or destination country. Women and children from developing countries, and from vulnerable parts of society in developed countries, are lured by promises of decent employment into leaving their homes and travelling away. Victims are often provided with false travel documents and an organized network is used to transport them to the destination country, where they find themselves forced into sexual slavery and held in inhumane conditions and constant fear.The trafficking of women for sexual exploitation is an international, organized, criminal phenomenon that has grave consequences for the safety, welfare and human rights of its victims.Trafficking in women is a criminal phenomenon that violates basic human rights, and totally destroying victims' lives. Countries are affected in various ways. Some see their young women being lured to leave their home country and ending up in the sex industry abroad. Other countries act mainly as transit countries, while several others receive foreign women who become victims of sexual exploitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollygoodfellow Posted May 20, 2011 Author Posted May 20, 2011 The key words seem to be sexual exploitation, which in the Interpol definition says lured with the promises of decent employment, and while they refer to taking people out of the country, in the Philippines they just lure them out of the provinces, or have their other workers do it for them with a reward for each they bring into the business. Naive women get sucked into a trap of starting out just talking to customers and having them buy them drinks, which loosens them up, since they have never drank before, and then because they have no money to return home, and their coworkers are doing it, then it must be OK for them to do as well. So for those who choose the life, so be it, but for those who end up lured with the promise of easy money, that is wrong IMHO. So while we may not like the terms used, it is not out country to tell them how to use their version of the English language. Human trafficking is the illegal trade in human beings for the purposes of reproductive slavery, commercial sexual exploitation, forced labor, or a modern-day form of slavery. Interpol definition his prevalent form of trafficking affects every region in the world, either as a source, transit or destination country. Women and children from developing countries, and from vulnerable parts of society in developed countries, are lured by promises of decent employment into leaving their homes and travelling away. Victims are often provided with false travel documents and an organized network is used to transport them to the destination country, where they find themselves forced into sexual slavery and held in inhumane conditions and constant fear.The trafficking of women for sexual exploitation is an international, organized, criminal phenomenon that has grave consequences for the safety, welfare and human rights of its victims.Trafficking in women is a criminal phenomenon that violates basic human rights, and totally destroying victims' lives. Countries are affected in various ways. Some see their young women being lured to leave their home country and ending up in the sex industry abroad. Other countries act mainly as transit countries, while several others receive foreign women who become victims of sexual exploitation. Who said anything about telling them how to use the English language? my point as its not commonly known by the term trafficking in most countries.The term is usually used for and as quoted above,for those who are moved out side of their home country.Naive women get sucked into a trap of starting out just talking to customers and having them buy them drinks, which loosens them up, since they have never drank before, and then because they have no money to return home, and their coworkers are doing it, then it must be OK for them to do as well. So for those who choose the life, so be it, but for those who end up lured with the promise of easy money, that is wrong IMHO. Is this just your opinion or are these facts about naive women?Are these facts of what happens to people who choose to work in a bar, lured by the promise of easy money? do you know if anyone has been lured by this or is it just your opinion of how things are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lee Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 Is this just your opinion or are these facts about naive women?Are these facts of what happens to people who choose to work in a bar, lured by the promise of easy money? do you know if anyone has been lured by this or is it just your opinion of how things are? Yes I know of one young lady who was lured with the promise of a supposedly great job as a Guest Relations Officer and had no idea what that meant, the results were not good and she had no way out. Ended up pregnant with no parental supervision around after growing up in the communal life of a naive underage province girl, and then her supposed work friends were the only support group she then had. Unfortunately it does happen all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollygoodfellow Posted May 20, 2011 Author Posted May 20, 2011 Is this just your opinion or are these facts about naive women?Are these facts of what happens to people who choose to work in a bar, lured by the promise of easy money? do you know if anyone has been lured by this or is it just your opinion of how things are? Yes I know of one young lady who was lured with the promise of a supposedly great job as a Guest Relations Officer and had no idea what that meant, the results were not good and she had no way out. Ended up pregnant with no parental supervision around after growing up in the communal life of a naive underage province girl, and then her supposed work friends were the only support group she then had. Unfortunately it does happen all the time. Theres always a story but no proof, of course there will be a few cases of naive people but it is an assumption that it happens all the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy2cebu Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) Interesting, but most of all because there is no mention of the other 200+ clubs on Fields Ave. that do exactly the same thing. Sounds like someone was not paying the traditional "local police tax". :as-if:Papa Carl Attention Old 55..........another example of people with 'authority' cashing in...... Edited May 21, 2011 by Kuya Lee repair quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sibbick Posted May 21, 2011 Posted May 21, 2011 I have lived with two women who worked in bikini bars in Cebu. They did it because they wanted the money. They still wanted to do it while living with me. So, there is no way they were trafficked. In my opinion, most of the women in the bikini bars in Cebu City will be doing it because they like the money. Otherwise, one bar fine will usually be enough to pay the boat fare back home.Many of the families don't know what they are doing. Some may know the girls are working in a bar, but think it is just as a waitress. Regards: Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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