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[Eddie1]

1 hour ago, bastonjock said:

I had one person tell me , not two , my gfs familly are not trying to overcharge me , i think her papa does not want the job .

The demand of rent was turned down by my gf , it was greedy farmers who asked for it .

Maybe im making a mistake,  but wtf ,ive had enough of the negativity that keeps getting thrown at me 

Byebye forum 

 

 

If you don't like the answers..... don't ask the questions.     Anybody can see that the members here are trying to help you with their vast knowledge of how things work here in the Phils be it good or bad.   If you can find a better forum to help you with your problems then good luck with that!

Byebye to you also.

[Snowy79]

2 hours ago, bastonjock said:

I had one person tell me , not two , my gfs familly are not trying to overcharge me , i think her papa does not want the job .

The demand of rent was turned down by my gf , it was greedy farmers who asked for it .

Maybe im making a mistake,  but wtf ,ive had enough of the negativity that keeps getting thrown at me 

Byebye forum 

 

 

Don't jump ship due to people giving advice that you don't want to hear. This forum is one of the best out there for advice.  Sure some may sound negative but the information is factual not hearsay.  Most of us have been burned a little here in the Philippines it's a whole new ball game out here.  Logic and loyalty goes right out of the window sadly.

Have a look arround some of the older posts and you will see a recurring pattern.  Westerners coming here and falling in love within weeks, luckily meeting a great partner who has so many friends in high places that can get them special deals.  Fast forward 6 months or a year and he realises he's being royaly shafted and suddenly it's all gone pear shaped.

There is a hierarchy here.  Family, friends, pets then foreigners.  If you catch someone out then the gates close and you are the outsider.  We are cash cows for the vast majority here and you've got to play their game.  Keep your money in the bank and enjoy a simple life.  Almost every foreigner I know that goes into business over here ends up more stressed than they were when back in their home countries.  You'll get a few that strike lucky but even some of them a few years later can get bitten.

If more foreigners would post their ideas on here before spending the cash I'm sure a lot of pain and money could have been saved.  Try not to look on things from your perspective.  Look on it as what you would say if you were advising a friend.  I'm going through a process of trying to tell a good friend he is being screwed over by his partner but his blinkers are on.  I've asked him hypothetically what he would in certain situations and every time he says the person is a fool and why doesn't he do X,Y and Z.  I sit back and shake my head as I'm describing him.

We are not saying you are wrong we are just highlighting possibilities, stay and prove us wrong.

[stevewool]

7 hours ago, bastonjock said:

I had one person tell me , not two , my gfs familly are not trying to overcharge me , i think her papa does not want the job .

The demand of rent was turned down by my gf , it was greedy farmers who asked for it .

Maybe im making a mistake,  but wtf ,ive had enough of the negativity that keeps getting thrown at me 

Byebye forum 

 

 

I was told once to “ Pull my neck in “, I am not telling you that but you have given me lots of advice , I will be sorry to see you go.

[Viking]

On ‎4‎/‎3‎/‎2019 at 9:31 AM, stevewool said:

 

Its great reading what others are doing and have achieved and I wish everyone all the luck in the world , but it all seems like hard work, and lots of STRESS, I am happy with my camera and a view and to watch the world go by for now.

This is exactly the way I feel. The day I move to Philippines I want less stress, not more 

[hk blues]

55 minutes ago, Viking said:

This is exactly the way I feel. The day I move to Philippines I want less stress, not more 

I hoped the same.

Reality is that even the simplest thing here can be complicated due to, in my opinion, a genuine lack of  ownership/responsibility/humility/professionalism and so on.  In time, you lower your expectations and assume everything will be difficult then you'll be OK.

Example - Last Sunday we went to SM and wanted to deposit a couple of bags while we shopped.  The clerk said there was a 1 hour limit.  I asked since when and she said more than a year - we have been depositing our bags there for 4 years with nothing said!   No point in arguing so said OK and went back 3 or 4 hours later to pick up the bags.  No problem.

[Viking]

2 hours ago, hk blues said:

I hoped the same.

Reality is that even the simplest thing here can be complicated due to, in my opinion, a genuine lack of  ownership/responsibility/humility/professionalism and so on.  In time, you lower your expectations and assume everything will be difficult then you'll be OK.

Example - Last Sunday we went to SM and wanted to deposit a couple of bags while we shopped.  The clerk said there was a 1 hour limit.  I asked since when and she said more than a year - we have been depositing our bags there for 4 years with nothing said!   No point in arguing so said OK and went back 3 or 4 hours later to pick up the bags.  No problem.

I am aware  that even the smallest things can get complicated in PH, thats why I intend to keep a very low profile when its time for me to make the move.  For me that means, no land will be bought , no house will be built and no business. I admire those who do it and succeed but for me it is not worth the risk.

I also have an example of Philogic from SM, I was in the line to pay for the groceries in my basket when I see that another line was not as long as mine. I changed line but immediately one of the staff was there and told me that I could not stand in that line because is was only for customers with a cart and I only had a basket! I said fine, and then put my goods in an empty cart that was right there. He just gave me a blank stare and then walked away. 

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[Jack Peterson]

7 minutes ago, Viking said:

I only had a basket! I said fine, and then put my goods in an empty cart that was right there. He just gave me a blank stare and then walked away. 

 Attaway to go my Friend 

[hk blues]

6 minutes ago, Viking said:

I am aware  that even the smallest things can get complicated in PH, thats why I intend to keep a very low profile when its time for me to make the move.  For me that means, no land will be bought , no house will be built and no business. I admire those who do it and succeed but for me it is not worth the risk.

I also have an example of Philogic from SM, I was in the line to pay for the groceries in my basket when I see that another line was not as long as mine. I changed line but immediately one of the staff was there and told me that I could not stand in that line because is was only for customers with a cart and I only had a basket! I said fine, and then put my goods in an empty cart that was right there. He just gave me a blank stare and then walked away. 

You were lucky to find an empty cart nearby - we usually have to hunt around as many of the carts are full of goods that look like they are being dumped or put back on the shelves. 

Honestly speaking, most of my frustration stems from shopping/stores rather than dealing with government departments.

[Jack Peterson]

1 minute ago, hk blues said:

Honestly speaking, most of my frustration stems from shopping/stores rather than dealing with government departments.

 Yes hk I can relate to that at times

[Jollygoodfellow]

13 hours ago, bastonjock said:

I had one person tell me , not two , my gfs familly are not trying to overcharge me , i think her papa does not want the job .

The demand of rent was turned down by my gf , it was greedy farmers who asked for it .

Maybe im making a mistake,  but wtf ,ive had enough of the negativity that keeps getting thrown at me 

Byebye forum 

 

 

Negativity or facts? 

Simple matter is that's the way it is. Members give advice or opinions and usually it's from their experiences.

So what is negitive about that.?

Anyway tell the same story on any forum or Facebook group and you will get the same answers and one day you will look back at this while sharing your own experience and now wisdom. 

Good luck