adrian canuck Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 9:50 PM, hk blues said: Sorry If I seem abrupt but I do get irritated when people say lockdowns are a waste of time and anyone who is not old or sick is safe. It's just not true. Even if only 1% of those who have died weren't in the old/sick category that would amount to 4,000 people - not a small number in my book. So you would rip up all the hiways to stop driving fatalities ? 1.35 million die every year. Life is inherently fraught with peril. But locking down the economy, forcing people to take completely unreasonable precautions for very little gain is crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthdome Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 On 6/10/2020 at 9:25 AM, GeoffH said: Britain is also an island.. they could have locked down at the same time as NZ. They both are islands but New Zealand has a much smaller population, is more remote than the UK which has the chunnel to Europe and I expect the UK has a great deal more international travel than New Zealand. My point is that what works in one place may not work in another. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Tommy T. Posted June 11, 2020 Forum Support Posted June 11, 2020 After reading this morning's news, I believe there will be joy spread to some members here. Now that the USA and other countries have "opened up" after lock downs, the number of infections and hospitalizations has skyrocketed. So... now we will see and follow the wisdom of letting everyone roam free without restraints? L and I will continue to stay at home with limited excursions outside. Good luck to all who prefer "freedom" or "liberty" to death... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 31 minutes ago, Tommy T. said: Now that the USA and other countries have "opened up" after lock downs, the number of infections and hospitalizations has skyrocketed Link? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Tommy T. Posted June 11, 2020 Forum Support Posted June 11, 2020 Good question, Dave... I cannot find any from this morning other than this one... so far... I am referring to many headlines I saw yesterday. Maybe everyone is relaxed again today and see the up-ticks in infections, hospitalizations, deaths, etc... in stride? But I just woke up and am enjoying my "royal coffee," coffee, black, but with a shot of Tanduay... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-reports-highest-single-day-total-of-coronavirus-cases/ar-BB15magA?li=BBnbcA1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffH Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dave Hounddriver said: Link? Dr John Campbell mentioned that they'd increased in a video in his 'World Update Video 12 June 2020'. It's a bit long but the USA information is between the 10 minute and 15 minute points. He didn't say 'sky rocketed' he said increased and said "partly because changes to lockdown and partly because of the riots and protests". He also said that in Arizona 11 hospital ICU units were now full which isn't a good sign. I'm sure some people won't like that this information is 'second hand' but I wanted to point out that it isn't just Tommy saying this and there is information from a respected 'source' saying similar things. Feel free to watch the relevant Dr John video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBM Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 19 hours ago, jimeve said: New Zealand did everything correct, the Brits did everything wrong. To throw a little more spice in the mix take a look at Belarus, 0.5% mortality rate....half as deadly as their flu. No lock down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Support Tommy T. Posted June 12, 2020 Forum Support Posted June 12, 2020 Ah... more links available to me now: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-reports-highest-single-day-total-of-coronavirus-cases/ar-BB15magA?li=BBnb7Kz https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/houston-weighs-reimposing-lockdown-sees-precipice-of-disaster/ar-BB15mmie?li=BBnb7Kz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffH Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, RBM said: To throw a little more spice in the mix take a look at Belarus, 0.5% mortality rate....half as deadly as their flu. No lock down. The leader of Belarus is a Covid denier, like the leader of Brazil. https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/belarus-life-normal-ravaging-coronavirus-epidemic-200507104734893.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hounddriver Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 Where I live we locked down for 3 months and had more deaths due to drug overdoses in one month than all covid deaths in the 3 months https://nanaimonewsnow.com/2020/06/11/may-deadliest-month-ever-for-fatal-overdoses-on-vancouver-island/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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